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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (124525)	2/9/2004 11:35:20 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<by the strangest of coincidences, Gaddafi only did that after he saw Saddam crawl out of his spider hole> I suspect there has been enormous value in having Milosevic in big trouble for years in unending torture at the hands of lawyers in an international trial, and Omar running for it on his motorbike, and Osama escaping by the skin of his teeth from his impregnable Tora Bora, and Uday and Qusay copying "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" final scene and Saddam being hauled ignominiously from his little underground bunker. Nobody has succeeded in confronting the USA and civilisation. So, when Pakistan is caught red-handed supplying WMDs or at least the process to build them, then the recipients of that largesse must feel a bit on the nervous side when the USA explains to them that they'll hand over the goods now or else. Or else has a very clear outcome. While the USA is theoretically all tired out after exertions in Afghanistan and Iraq, I wouldn't personally bet too much of my own neck that that's the case. Especially if they spied me polishing the nose cone of a noocular weapons related programme activity. Freeing the Iraqi and Afghan people is all very nice, but George Bush is right - the world is a safer place as a result of the invasions and international activities over the past decade starting with booting out Saddam from Iraq. The Indonesians were pushed out of East Timor too by Kiwi and Oz troops with USA support. The Indonesians agreed to back off, which is a better way of doing these things than actual fighting. International coalitions are quite convincing. China for example would perhaps be a bit circumspect about murdering a lot of Taiwanese if a convincing coalition of NUN majority arrayed against them in the debating chamber of parliament in, say, Baghdad which might be a good location for an HQ [avoid the parking problems and high costs of downtown Noo Yawk or Geneva]. It was nice to see Libya fold and Khan apologize. North Korea must be looking for a way out. I still think North Korea offering threat and resistance serves China's interests over Taiwan. Seeing Libya fold and Saddam surrender and his sons die and Osama and Omar scuttling for it will have chastened North Korea. They'll be looking for a way out. They don't want to be the next training grounds. They've seen the technology and troops in action. It must be quite frightening to have gps and laser guided munitions arrive through the keyhole of the back door. Mqurice

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (124525)	2/10/2004 8:59:50 AM
From: John Soileau	Respond to of 281500

Pakistani Ambassador Ashraf Jehangir Qazi denied in an interview that terrorist camps are operating in his country, including the remote regions of western Pakistan or in Kashmir. "We have never accepted the allegation that there were training camps here, not now, not ever," Mr. Qazi told The Times. "These allegations have persisted despite our repeated denials. I assure you there is absolutely no reason to believe that any terrorist camps exist in Pakistan or Kashmir." Sounds like Baghdad Bob put on a turban and got a new job!! Meanwhile, while we were busy elsewhere... washtimes.com