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To: Dayuhan who wrote (28538)2/11/2004 2:08:32 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793843
 
The courts are not supposed to decide such issues according to the desire of the majority of the population, but according to basic legal principles.

Yes, basic legal principles like precedent and legal tradition. And, as the Supreme Court adds, PUBLIC SENTIMENT. The law is not seperate from consideration of historical social mores. There is no precedent for gay marriage, in all of human history. Even the Greeks, those great lovers of pederasty, did not allow same sex marriage. There are no legal or cultural grounds. And the courts have a duty to consider the lines where social mores say THIS BEHAVIOR IS UNACCEPTABLE.

I’m not sure what Constitutional violation that would be, but I’m sure that if a law banning hamburgers was passed, it would be overturned, and pretty quickly

Well, probably because there is no social sanction on eating hamburgers. As I noted however, there ARE bans on eating certain foods, such as cats and dogs, and those regulations on based on nothing more than social convention.

I’m no lawyer, but I don’t see how it would be possible for the Constitution to present a complete list of permitted activities. Isn’t the onus on the government to justify any restraint it wants to impose, if a citizen petitions the courts for redress against that restraint.

Certainly. But when some judges on the bench have an agenda that is contradictory to tradition, precedent, and public sentiment, and usurp the role of the legislature, don't be surprised when there are fireworks, as in Mass.

If they aren’t hurting you, leave ‘em alone and let ‘em do what they want to do. I can’t imagine a more fundamentally American sentiment than that.

We aren't islands in the stream, Steven. There is more to a functioning civil society than consent and harm. Part of that is the body of social rules and expectations, often reflected in a nation's laws, that regulate social behavior. We can't just "do what we want to do". Anywhere, anytime, in human history. EVER.

Derek