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To: Sig who wrote (124565)	2/10/2004 1:11:08 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Sig; Re: "They were burned, in which case Saddam is a hypnotist who erased the memories of the people who burned them. They were buried, and again Saddam is a hypnotist. Them were sent out of country, and once again Saddam erased the memories of those involved in moving them." The Iraqis did produce people who did recall secretly disposing of WMDs. Their was no need for hypnotism. The problem for the Iraqis was that they could not produce *proof* that the weapons were destroyed, just the people who had said they'd destroyed them. The UN inspectors even found some of the locations where WMDs were secretly destroyed. They tried to search through the remains to determine how many weapons were destroyed. But it's not always easy to verify how many weapons were so destroyed. This all was widely reported in the papers of a year ago. For people who have short attention spans (and shouldn't be attempting to intelligently comment on subjects like these), here's a reminder: Transcript of Blix's U.N. presentation CNN, March 7, 2003 ... There is a significant Iraqi effort under way to clarify a major source of uncertainty as to the quantities of biological and chemical weapons which were unilaterally destroyed in 1991. A part of this effort concerns a disposal site, which was deemed too dangerous for full investigation in the past. It is now being re-excavated. To date, Iraq has unearthed eight complete bombs, comprising two liquid-filled intact R-400 bombs and six other complete bombs. Bomb fragments are also found. Samples have been taken. The investigation of the destruction site could, in the best case, allow the determination of the number of bombs destroyed at that site. It should be followed by serious and credible effort to determine the separate issue of how many R-400-type bombs were produced. ... Iraq proposed an investigation using advanced technology to quantify the amount of unilaterally destroyed anthrax dumped at a site. However, even if the use of advanced technology could quantify the amount of anthrax said to be dumped at the site, the results will still be open to interpretation. Defining the quantity of anthrax destroyed must of course be followed by efforts to establish what quantity was actually produced. With respect to VX, Iraq has recently suggested a similar method to quantify VX precursors stated to have been unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. ... cnn.com So there you have it. It was already known as a FACT that Iraq had secretly (i.e. "unilaterally" with no UN observers) destroyed WMDs in the early 1990s. That's what the R-400 bomb fragments were, evidence of destroyed Iraqi WMDs. The R-400 is a biological bomb: desert-voice.net All my version of reality says is that the above, the already known fate of many of Iraq's WMDs, was the mysterious fate of the missing portion of their WMDs. And the best description of my theory, a theory that is backed up by reports from the weapons inspectors themselves, that you can come up with is a "hypnosis" theory. Why should I debate you? You guys are claiming that it is ridiculous to suppose that Saddam would secretly destroy WMDs. But the evidence is clear that he did exactly that. As to why he did it, my guess is that he wished to deny that the weapons ever existed and he did not know how carefully the UN inspectors would search for evidence of their manufacture (so that he would later regret not keeping better proof). Your side, instead, simply claims it didn't happen. The proof against you is overwhelming. The above evidence of secret Iraqi destruction of WMDs is not denied by the Administration, but do note that they're not exactly bringing it to your attention, LOL. So which is it? Did Saddam secretly destroy WMDs or not? If you claim that he did not, then how is it that the weapons inspectors were inspecting sites where Saddam secretly destroyed WMDs? I really don't know how to put this to you gently. The Bush administration, as far as the WMD issue goes, either lost touch with reality and logic, or lied like a dog. The American public, by and large, bought the story hook line and sinker because they're too stupid to think the facts out for themselves, and too trusting (or prejudiced) to imagine Saddam, as opposed to Bush, telling the truth. -- Carl