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To: Dayuhan who wrote (28712)2/10/2004 4:37:33 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793958
 
Since the advent of the Internet and cable TV, the whole notion of “mainstream media” has really lost its relevance.

It appears like that to you, because you are out of it, and deal with Internet people who have it all. cable/internet is a still a minor source of news in the USA.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (28712)2/10/2004 6:05:27 AM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793958
 
Hi Steven, well, I may have been tweaking you just a bit there. But here was my though process...You made the following comment regarding the Rush media rant on the economy.

res- Of course the Democrats are trying to make the economy look worse than it is, just like the Republicans are trying to make it look better than it is.

Now, think about this. What view is the mainstream press giving us of the economy? Rush's point was even in Europe the view is positive while the predominat view on American television is negative.

Let me see if I can find an mrc transcript to back this up....

Ah, I hadn't read mrc in a couple of weeks, and two clicks into I discover this.

But I'll take your point regarding alternate media. So I'll put it this way instead. CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CNN, N.Y. Times, Boston Globe, WA Post, LA Times, Newsweek, Time Magazine, USNews and World Report, and just about every local news program is pro-democrat in their economic news reporting. Will that suffice Steven? (Oops, left out PBS radio which is heard in all 50 states and around the world on armed forces radio networks).

Now, how about you give me your list and we'll do a comparative analysis on population viewership and news influence?
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CBS Emphasizes the Negative in Declining
Unemployment Numbers
mediaresearch.org

Emphasizing the negative. Dan Rather opened Friday’s CBS Evening News by kvetching: “Not a va-room, but a putt, putt, putt. Tonight, America’s economic engine creates some new jobs, but not nearly enough to replace the thousands lost.”

Rather set up two stories on the subject: “It is growing, but the U.S. economy isn’t producing enough jobs. At least not yet. The government’s official figures out today say unemployment in January was running 5.6 percent. While that is down a bit, the decline is largely the result of workers’ giving up on finding a job and no longer officially listed as unemployed. The economy created some new jobs in January -- about 112,000. But economists say that is below predictions and expectations and not nearly enough to meet demand.”

On the upbeat side, Anthony Mason looked at a Massachusetts-based Internet services company that is doing well and plans to hire, yet Mason ended on a downer as he pointed out that the number of people looking for jobs exceeds the number of openings: “Unemployment may be dropping, but this economy is still awash in resumes.”

Then Cynthia Bowers provided an all negative story pegged to the closing of a refrigerator plant in Greenville, Michigan.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (28712)2/10/2004 6:11:15 AM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793958
 
What would a day on SI be without reading a good media bias piece? :)

Still Liberal, Still Biased
How Big Media Helped the Left and Hurt the Right in 2003 mediaresearch.org

By Tim Graham and Rich Noyes
January 2004

Executive Summary

According to a growing number of journalists, the media’s liberal bias — a trait that most reporters refuse to acknowledge — is no longer a problem. Pointing to the commercial success of conservative talk radio hosts such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, plus the Fox News Channel’s dominance of cable TV, many media liberals insist the news industry has all of the fairness and balance it needs.

“It took conservatives a lot of hard and steady work to push the media rightward. It dishonors that work to continue to presume that — except for a few liberal columnists — that there is any such thing as the big liberal media,” Washington Post columnist E. J. Dionne argued late in 2002. Dionne, formerly a top political reporter for both the Post and the New York Times, asserted that the media are actually “heavily biased toward conservative politics and conservative politicians.”

But as a new election year begins, the news organizations who truly dominate the media landscape — such as the Big Three broadcast networks and influential papers like the New York Times — remain what they have been for decades: allies of liberalism and enemies of conservative policies. All last year, Media Research Center analysts documented the media’s coverage of a variety of social and political issues, and found that the Big Media in 2003 reliably reflected the liberal mentality that Dionne and others argued was a thing of the past:

Economic Policy: All year, the media waged a campaign against taxpayers while pushing for ever-expanding government spending. TV gave three times more airtime to liberal arguments against President Bush’s tax cuts than conservative rebuttals, emphasizing how “big” and “huge” those cuts were. But when the subject was a much larger federal handout for senior citizens, the same network correspondents found critics who charged the giveaway of at least $400 billion was “still not enough.”

Foreign Policy: The media showered skepticism on the elected defenders of American liberty, not the tyrants and terrorists who threatened us. Before the war in Iraq, journalists such as ABC’s Peter Jennings advertised their open hostility to President Bush’s policies. During the war, NBC had to fire one of its correspondents for appearing on enemy-controlled Iraqi TV to declare the “failure” of the American war plan. After the war, journalists equated the alleged “quagmire” in Iraq to the failed U.S. effort in Vietnam two generations ago. The networks delighted in bad news — on the day of Saddam’s capture, Jennings pessimistically declared that “there’s not a good deal for Iraqis to be happy about at the moment.”

Social Issues: The media marginalized believers in traditional values and celebrated the counter-morality of secular progressives. On the 30th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision, TV virtually ignored the well-attended annual March for Life. Supreme Court reporters contrasted “conservatives” with those supporting “gay rights,” as if conservatives are against “rights.” The networks also portrayed Gene Robinson, the first gay Episcopalian bishop, as a courageous pioneer.

Politics: The media showed extreme reluctance to portray liberal Democrats as ideologues and revealed their double-standard on character issues. Although his presidential campaign is based on absolute opposition to the war in Iraq and reinstating the high tax rates of the Clinton era, numerous journalists rejected the notion that Howard Dean is liberal. As the California recall approached, reporters like Tom Brokaw — who refused to detail Juanita Broaddrick’s sexual assault charges against Bill Clinton — hypocritically confronted Arnold Schwarzenegger with last-minute groping allegations. “In many states, what you did would be criminal,” Brokaw lectured the GOP candidate.

The following month-by-month review shows how liberal bias contaminated the coverage of the major news stories of 2003, even as so many reporters continue to deny such bias exists. As the 2004 presidential campaign gets underway, the media elite — the Big Three networks, CNN, major newspapers and newsmagazines, wire services and taxpayer-subsidized public broadcasting — will surely be the Democrats’ greatest asset, as they twist their stories to boost liberals and thwart conservatives.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (28712)2/10/2004 8:04:05 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 793958
 
I have to agree with you for a change Steven. You hit the
nail on the head on nearly every point you made.

As much as you grasp the concept, your own personal bias,
as reflected in your posts, isn't all that much different
than the faults you so eloquently wrote about IMO.