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Pastimes : Prophecy -- HYPE or HOPE? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: alan w who wrote (2572)	2/10/2004 6:26:30 PM
From: gregor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

Alan: I apologize if I have ever given you the impression that I am contrary to the notion that men can seek God without the wooing and drawing of the Holy Spirit. In all this there is no further reason for discussion. The scripture clearly states that no man would come to God less men be drawn by God. In this aspect all men must be saved by grace for left on our own we would all be lost. If you look at the term that we are using in reference to Pharaoh" hardened " as in the heart my reference states that three separate Hebrew words are used in the translation of the term " hardened ". The first term in use is "chazaq" means to brace or tighten up as opposed to relax. In this respect the Holy Spirit is wonderful in that He can get our attention and cause us to concentrate and be keen in our observations. The second term " kabed" means to make heavy or weigh heavily. In this respect the Holy Spirit is causing us to think very carefully about a course of action. Not giving us rest. Sharpening the decision making process causing us to decide one way or the other. ( I know all this personally and know that the Holy Spirit deals with me this way often ) The third term is "qashah" is to make sharp hard severe and cruel. I could make an argument for you in 7:3 and 13:15 that God hardened Pharaoh's heart more along the lines of what you are saying but what about the 11 times the phrase "hardened" is used illustrating a completely different use of the word contrary to the meaning you are assigning to the term. In fact if even in the two illustrations that would support your viewpoint were closely viewed if the literal interpretation is sharpened or made keen as in a sharpening process then one would only be able to sharpen or to accentuate that which is already there. And my supposition is that Pharaoh had hardened his own heart and God was only making keen or sharpening that which was already there, not as you suppose that God was making anew or had made anew from the foundation of the earth. In Christ....gregor