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To: coug who wrote (1532)	2/10/2004 10:38:51 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

I don't think there are many anti Bush people who are only anti Bush because of jobs. Like me, I post mostly about jobs but that is because I know Bush will lose over jobs. War is different. Although I am vehemently against this made up war, and the destruction of our system of allies that has served us well for 50 years, the fact is that Bush won in 2000 with ONLY states that are less likely to see Iraq my way. The carolinas and virginia MIGHT vote with me against Bush on Iraq, but they might not. We don't know. The problem is that in those areas you have many families with soldiers stationed in Iraq, and it is very hard to blame these people for supporting the war no matter how miscast the concept of war at the presidential level is. This is just politics. In the case of jobs though, here is an issue that red states cannot deny. They might think that Bush is the most honorable man in the world but job loss will overcome that likeability. The combination of jobs PLUS Iraq will mean Bush loses. Personally if I had to list my largest issues with Bush, in terms of real concern for me as a citizen, I would probably put environmental issues above jobs, because I think the jobs crisis will work itself out in all honesty. The economy will collapse and whoever is in office will have to deal with it. The environment doesn't have that safety net of getting solved no matter who is in charge. But the environmental issues will not win the presidency either. Jobs and the economy will. We already know this anyway. BTW I just read on the Kerry website that somebody who lost their job in 01 has not been able to find work and is now homeless. So I find your lack of concern for these people a little insensitive frankly. Which is not to say that jobs are worse than war, don't get me wrong.

To: coug who wrote (1532)	2/10/2004 10:41:15 PM
From: mishedlo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

What is distressing to me.. No VERY distressing to me is the fact that MANY anti-Bush people, both dems repubs and independents, are only anti because of jobs. To me that is VERY wrong. Instead of the greatest sin: To be led, bamboozled into a IMMORAL war.. WAR, the ultimate commitment, a society can make.. Where life and death hang in balance and tragedy for ALL is just around the corner. Surviving is number one.. I agree - sort of, but right now, my only concern is that they hate him for any reason. We can not take 4 more years of this asshole or we will not have a bill of rights left. Mish

To: coug who wrote (1532)	2/10/2004 11:11:49 PM
From: PartyTime	Respond to of 173976

Coug--nicely stated. I agree!

To: coug who wrote (1532)	2/11/2004 1:54:02 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Amen Brother Coug, Let there be a Thousand Year Curse rained down on the House of Bush for the Unholy Mess the Man has Creationismed. Let the evolution of the Shrub be the devolution of the aristocratic pretenses of a mutant schism from the Church of American Dreams. Let the light be cast on the Lordly Lilliputian, posing and prancing as a Gulliver of Guile. Let us cast out the Moneychanger-Deranger, And let's have a hosanna hosts' huzzah, Sending the Cowpuke back to Crawford in style!