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To: cnyndwllr who wrote (538982)2/11/2004 6:19:43 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston  Respond to of 769670
 
This would have worked better, said Gandhi.

'... I want you to fight Nazism without arms. I would like you to lay down the arms you have as being useless for saving you or humanity. You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession of your beautiful island, with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these but neither your souls, nor your minds. If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them... I am telling His Excellency the Viceroy that my services are at the disposal of His Majesty's Government, should they consider them of any practical use in advancing the object of my appeal.' (Stanley Wolpert's Jinnah of Pakistan, pp. 187-188 as cited on page 144 of Chapter I of Constitutional Law of India, Supplement to Third Edition, 1988, written and published by H M Seervai, a giant in the field of constitutional history.)



To: cnyndwllr who wrote (538982)2/12/2004 7:32:27 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 769670
 
You do not read very well, do you? I said at the outset that I had no firm opinion as to the correctness of Vietnam. I understand very well that it may have been a mistake. I am merely in a position of expressing why I am not sure. Furthermore, I have explained to you several times that military intervention is not the preferred option. I certainly have no interest in "killing the hell" out of anyone for their own good. However, there are cases where a despot is so terrible, or disorder is so acute, that some form of military intervention makes sense. In such cases, it is not a matter of trying to get people to see the light through the barrel of a gun, it is a case of freeing their societies, or preventing them from being imprisoned. It is a case of helping them to gain security so that civil society may be formed. In short, it is a case of using military might for what it is good for. Your rhetoric is woefully beside the point.....