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To: TimF who wrote (2715)	2/12/2004 12:12:53 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7936

If that is your point, then please explain to me why we have given the Indians billions and many reservation acres? Other then their ability to assimilate into a large, rich, powerful, democratic, and relatively free country, they got a worse deal then what is on offer for the Palestinians. How so? The land was never theirs to control......they took it. Like Americans and Australians and others from the natives, like Russia from Poland and Poland (through the force of the USSR) from Germany. Actually if you go back further like every country in the world from the people who controlled it previously. Are we all going to state blowing up busses and pizza places and discos? Yes, in fact, that's usually what happens when one group or country takes land from another group or country. Evidence of that can be seen all throughout history. A modern example is Chechnya. Most Indians died from European diseases, not slaughter. True but many of them where slaughtered and the rest largely pushed off their land in what would now be called ethnic cleansing. however, Indians occupied only a fraction of the land. Their overall populations were very small because they were nomadic hunters and not farmers. And as nomadic hunters they had a large range that was theirs to use. We moved in and took it away. And we paid extensive reparations. Why should the Israelis not pay reparations to the Palestinians? "The Palestinians certainly would not want assimilation in to a Jewish controlled state." You've got it very wrong. Its the Israelis who are terrified of the Arabs getting assimilated into Israel. Notice the above bolded part. I didn't bold it when I first typed it because I didn't think it would be necessary Right now, Israel is "a Jewish controlled state" If the Indians/Native Americans would have been the majority in the US I doubt they would have been allowed to assimilate esp, if they had led a long campaign of terrorism. The Jews don't want the Palestinians to assimilate either because they fear the Palestinians getting control. My point was not that the Palestinians where rejecting some supposed fair offer of assimilation but rather that the conditions (demographic situation, and a stronger hatred between the two parties) in Israel/Palestine don't give them the same opportunity that the Indians/Native Americans had here and that if the Palestinians would be a small minority in a merged country that most of them wouldn't want that option. The Israelis can't absorb the Palestinians because ultimately they would have to give them the vote and they would be out voted and Israel would no longer be a Jewish state. This realization is just beginning to dawn on the Israelis. ted