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To: elpolvo who wrote (37723)	2/12/2004 8:22:21 AM
From: Crimson Ghost	Respond to of 89467

The Iraq civilian death toll from a decade of genocidal sanctions (mostly carried out by that great "humanitarian" Bill Clinton) ran into the hundreds ot thousands according to every estimate I have seen And we wonder why they are still killing US soldiers.

To: elpolvo who wrote (37723)	2/12/2004 3:16:57 PM
From: lurqer	Respond to of 89467

re. Digital Democracy and Comcast Comcast Corp., which had humble roots as a one-system cable company in tiny Tupelo, Miss., and grew into the country's largest cable television operator, is now poised to become a media colossus if a proposed deal to buy the Walt Disney Co. goes through. "You're talking about a company that would control the nation's digital destiny," said Jeff Chester, executive director of the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Digital Democracy, an advocacy group. "They're already too powerful," Chester said. "Now they want to mushroom beyond any other media giant." from newsday.com lurqer

To: elpolvo who wrote (37723)	2/12/2004 8:49:02 PM
From: lurqer	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 89467

More on media and Dean. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howard Dean's supporters think he has gotten a raw deal from the media. And their candidate does not disagree. Even before the former front-runner stumbled in primary and caucus states, Dean says he started taking hits from media insiders who he says feared handing the Democratic presidential nomination to an outsider. "I think I scared them. I think it goes back to when Al Gore endorsed me, and AFSCME and the SEIU; people in the establishment began to think I could win," Dean says, recalling the heady days last fall when he accumulated endorsements from top Democrats and labor unions. "That scared the hell out of them because they knew I didn't owe anybody. I didn't owe them a dime. Eighty-nine percent of our money comes from small donors. That's certainly not true of anybody else running for president on either side." The "them" Dean is referring to are the Washington-based political pundits, commentators and reporters who shape the discussion of presidential politics on television and on the pages of America's elite newspapers. "I think the media is part of the established group in Washington. They have a little club there," says Dean. "If you don't go down to kiss the ring, they get upset by that. I don't play the game. I pretty much say what I think. That makes a lot of people uncomfortable." Initially, Dean says, he felt he could take the hits. After all, media outlets that once dismissed him as the "asterisk" candidate from Vermont helped to make him a national figure when they featured him on magazine covers and news shows last fall. But, after what he refers to as a "pep talk" to backers after his defeat in the Iowa caucuses began airing around-the-clock on cable news programs as the "I Have a Scream" speech, Dean says he began to fully understand how events can be warped by the media. "ABC actually did a fairly sound retraction on that one," Dean says of a report by ABC News that showed the "scream" in Des Moines was dramatically amplified in television and cable reports. "But that's one network, and one report. Most of the networks failed to offer any perspective." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From commondreams.org lurqer