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To: TimF who wrote (2733)2/13/2004 12:09:59 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 7936
 
Actually if you go back further like every country in the world from the people who controlled it previously. Are we all going to state blowing up busses and pizza places and discos?"

Yes, in fact, that's usually what happens when one group or country takes land from another group or country. Evidence of that can be seen all throughout history. A modern example is Chechnya.

No actually it isn't what usually happens. More frequently throughout history the conquered people where wiped out or pushed away or beaten down until they could not resist. Of course through most of history their was no explosives for suicide bombers but typically the people did not resort to terrorism or even notice much difference between the new set of distant abusive overlords and the old.


What do you think the turmoil and fighting in Yugoslavia was all about; the fact that Slovakia demanded that they be separate from the Czech Republic; the terrorists acts the Macedonians commit against the Greeks; the terrorist bombings by the Basques in Spain; the Kurds fighting the Iraqis and the Turks......the list goes on and on?

Frankly, your view of history is rather narrow.

And as nomadic hunters they had a large range that was theirs to use. We moved in and took it away.

And we paid extensive reparations. Why should the Israelis not pay reparations to the Palestinians?

The reparations are pathetic compared to the amount of land. Actually we didn't directly pay reparations.


So what? At least they got reparations. The Palestinians have gotten nada.

The Jews frequently did pay for land when the moved in to Israel/Palestine, sometimes more then once, as they had to pay off alternate claimants to the land.

That was before WW II. I am talking about the land and property they confiscated after WW II.

Right now, Israel is "a Jewish controlled state"

And the only way Palestinians would want to assimilate in to it (if Israel let them) would be to make it a "non Jewish controlled state", they wouldn't want to be part of a Jewish controlled state. The Indians on the other hand did become part of a state controlled by the people who moved in and took their land and they still do not exert any strong control over the state and they probably never will. However generally Indians have done best by assimilating into to the society of the "invaders". Those who staid on the reservations have not done as well and even they are somewhat assimilated.


Clearly, you haven't been out West. The Indians on the reservations out here fare much better.

ted