I would have posted this last Friday, but the NBR web site was ... having problems. Since it's not short term "stuff" -
02/06/04: Market Monitor-James Stack, President, InvesTech Research
PAUL KANGAS: My guest "Market Monitor" this week is James Stack, president of Investech Research, based in Whitefish, Montana. Welcome back to NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, Jim.
JAMES STACK, PRESIDENT, INVESTECH RESEARCH: Thank you, Paul. It's great to be here again.
KANGAS: Of all the January jobs report, came up little short on new job creation, Wall Street seemed quite impressed. And at what stage do you think the U.S. economic recovery is right now?
STACK: Well, the 2001 recession ended over two years ago. And the average length of economic recoveries over the past century has been only three to four years. So we could already be in the latter half of this economic recovery and bull market. That's why we're at the stage at which good economic news, if it's too good, can actually be bad for Wall Street.
KANGAS: Because interest rates will...
STACK: That's right. It tends to push the Fed towards that tightening, that first tightening which seems inevitable even in an election year.
KANGAS: But a lot of investors think the Fed wouldn't dare tighten in an election year, that's not true, is it?
STACK: That's not true at all. In the Federal Reserve's 90-year history, they have raised the discount rate 81 times, and over one-quarter of those rate hikes, 22 of them have been in a presidential election year.
KANGAS: But not within two months of the election, I understand.
STACK: Exactly, exactly.
KANGAS: And I learned that from your letter, incidentally.
STACK: There's only one time in the Federal Reserve's history when they have raised the discount rate in September or October before the election, that was in 1980 when we were seeing double-digit inflation.
KANGAS: OK. Now you have expressed concern in your market letter about the imbalances between rising oil prices and the falling dollar. How worried are you about this combination?
STACK: Well, from an investment standpoint, when you look at the overall market, we still have some of the best technical strength in leadership and breadth that we'd seen in our technical gauges in over a decade. So I think this bull still has legs to run through most of this year if not all of it. But if energy prices keep rising instead of falling, as economists expect, or if the dollar starts hitting new lows again, then we're going to see the Fed possibly push to tighten sooner or the bond market could tighten for the Fed by taking long-term bond yields higher.
KANGAS: You have called the recent surge in legal corporate insider selling something not to worry about. It seems it should be just the opposite. Why is that?
STACK: This is one of the great false truisms on Wall Street, that is the insider selling. They are selling at record levels, but corporate insiders were also selling at record levels in 1983 when the Dow went through 1000 for the last and final time. And incidentally, they were also buying near record levels in the final years of the bubble. So these are not a particularly astute group of individuals that the average investor wants to follow.
KANGAS: That's interesting to know. (LAUGHTER)
STACK: Well, they tend to be very emotional, when their stocks run up like we've seen, they jump at the chance to sell them.
KANGAS: Your last visit with us as a "Market Monitor" was September 5. And the Dow was around 9500, you were bullish, correctly so, and you gave us four recommendations and let's have a look how they fared. Biomet (NASDAQ:BMET) was one of your favorites, it's up 10 points, that's over 30 percent. Good one there. And Mentor (NASDAQ:MNTR) did very nicely, up a comfortable 4 points. And then we had two others. EnCana (NYSE:ECA), I believe that's a natural gas company, is it not?
STACK: Yes. It's one of the largest in North America.
KANGAS: It's up only a few points, but it's still in the plus column. And Newmont Mining (NYSE:NEM), the big gold, is up comfortably as well. Do you still like gold?
STACK: Yes, we do. And all of those stocks we are still holding in our managed accounts.
KANGAS: OK. So you own them in essence. How about new recommendations, it's that time?
STACK: Well, we still like Biomet, it has run up pretty fast pretty far, but I would look at buying it on pullbacks. It has a decade of double-digit 15 percent revenue and earnings growth on average. In addition, we also like Pfizer (NYSE:PFE). I think for a pharmaceutical company, it represents one of the best values out there. It's selling well below its median P/E ratio...
KANGAS: Huge capitalization, 7 1/2 billion shares or something of that nature?
STACK: Yes. But its valuation, its P/E ratio is selling well below its historic median. And that means it's one of the better values out there, and in addition their cash flow and earnings should be up close to 20 percent...
KANGAS: We have time for one last new buy recommendation.
STACK: Another one that we like in the energy sector, because they typically do well in the latter stages of a recovery, is Devon Energy (AMEX:DVN). It's one of the largest independent oil and gas producers in North America.
KANGAS: All right. Do you own all three of these stocks?
STACK: Absolutely.
KANGAS: OK. So you're a believer, I guess.
STACK: Well, we certainly hold them and we intend to hold them in our portfolio as long as we have those ingredients for a bull market.
KANGAS: Jim, thanks very much, it always great to see you.
STACK: Always my pleasure.
KANGAS: My guest "Market Monitor," James Stack, president of Investech. Research.
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