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To: American Spirit who wrote (37818)2/14/2004 12:52:16 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Clark Comes Aboard Kerry Campaign
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By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
The New York Times
February 14, 2004


MADISON, Wis. — Senator John Kerry picked up the endorsement of Gen. Wesley K. Clark on Friday at a rally where the two men highlighted their military service and national security credentials and struck hard at the White House.

On a day when President Bush ordered the release of all his Vietnam-era National Guard files, General Clark, a former supreme allied commander of NATO who dropped out of the Democratic presidential race this week, stood side by side with the senator, a decorated Navy lieutenant in the Vietnam War, at the armory building on the University of Wisconsin campus here. The two clasped hands and raised their fists together.

"Sir!" General Clark announced crisply, turning to face Mr. Kerry. "Request permission to come aboard! The Army's here!"

Mr. Kerry said later, smiling broadly, "This is the first time in my life that I've had the privilege of saying `Welcome aboard' to a four-star general."

General Clark's endorsement gave Mr. Kerry new support as he hopes to push his most important remaining rivals — Senator John Edwards of North Carolina and Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont —out of the race right after the Wisconsin primary on Tuesday.

"I ask you to join me in standing up for an American who has given truly outstanding service to his country in peace and in war," General Clark said at the rally.

The joint appearance came a day after President Bush's re-election campaign and the Republican Party opened a series of attacks against Mr. Kerry, treating him as if he were already the Democratic nominee. Ed Gillespie, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, in a speech on Thursday night, attacked Senator Kerry's record on military and intelligence issues and predicted that Democrats would run "the dirtiest campaign in modern presidential politics."

At the same time, Mr. Bush's re-election campaign posted a video on its Web site accusing Mr. Kerry of being "unprincipled" and the tool of special interests.

Mr. Kerry and his newest supporter, General Clark, struck back.

Saying he was not surprised that the Bush campaign was attacking him, Mr. Kerry ticked off a litany of issues — health care, jobs and the environment among them — that he said Republicans could not talk about. "They can't talk to you about anything except destruction, except negative, except the politics of tearing down," he said at the rally.

General Clark sounded a similar theme. "President Bush hasn't led America, he's misled America," the general said, adding that he would do "everything I can to help when the Republican mean machine cranks up their attacks."

Earlier in the day, Mr. Kerry proclaimed himself a "fighter" in an interview with Don Imus, the radio talk show host.

Asked why Mr. Bush's National Guard service during the Vietnam era as well as the senator's own history as a decorated Vietnam veteran who became a war protester were an issue, Mr. Kerry said, "It seems to be the war that won't ever go away," and called it "the pivotal event of our generation."

He said of his decision to oppose the Vietnam War, "Look, I didn't love coming back from the war I fought in and having to tell people, `This is wrong, this is screwed up,' but it was and we lost a lot of lives."

Mr. Kerry also denied to Mr. Imus — and again later to reporters in Wisconsin — a charge posted Thursday on the Web site of the Internet gossip columnist Matt Drudge that the senator had had an extramarital affair.

"Is there anything, anything, that's going to come up?" Mr. Imus said, before making an oblique reference to the Drudge report.

Mr. Kerry replied: "There's nothing to report. So there's nothing to talk about. I'm not worried about it."

Later in the day after a town-hall-style question-and-answer appearance with Gov. Jim Doyle, Mr. Kerry told reporters: "I just deny it categorically. It's rumor. It's untrue, period."

Mr. Kerry, who has vowed to compete in primaries in every state, spent much of the day here before heading to Nevada, where caucuses will be held on Saturday. He expects to return to Wisconsin on Saturday afternoon, and will remain here through the voting on Tuesday.

Throughout the day, at both the rally and the town hall meeting, Mr. Kerry campaigned on the issues of health care, special education and especially veterans benefits, which he said have been cut by the Bush administration.

He said he would not stand attacks on his patriotism — a reference to recent efforts by conservatives to highlight his record as an antiwar protester — "when the first definition of patriotism is keeping faith with the people who wore the uniform of our country."

Though he has yet to have the Democratic nomination wrapped up, Mr. Kerry was getting repeated questions about whom he might choose as a vice-presidential running mate. At the question-and-answer session with Governor Doyle, a woman asked Mr. Kerry if he would consider Representative Dennis J. Kucinich, the Ohio Democrat who has not won any primaries but came in third recently in Maine and Washington State.

Mr. Kerry paused for a minute before answering, "I can consider anybody if you nominate me."

nytimes.com



To: American Spirit who wrote (37818)2/14/2004 1:01:29 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
So Begins the Vice-Presidential Mating Dance
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By TODD S. PURDUM
The New York Times
February 14, 2004


WASHINGTON — Senator John Edwards used to say he didn't want it, but now he's not so sure. Gov. Jennifer Granholm of Michigan couldn't take it, because she is Canadian-born. Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico has already begun asking people if he should accept it, suggesting he thinks it could be his.

It is the No. 2 spot on the Democratic ticket, and Gen. Wesley K. Clark is said by some Democrats to covet it so much that he no sooner folded his own tent than he endorsed his party's front-runner, Senator John Kerry, in Wisconsin on Friday. Afterward, the general told amused Kerry aides, "You were my pick," implying that had he not run, he would have backed Mr. Kerry all along.

It may barely be Valentine's Day, but the vice-presidential mating dance has begun.

Vice President John Nance Garner famously said the job wasn't worth a bucket of warm spit, or something cruder, and Mr. Kerry has not even nailed down his own nomination. But that has not stopped leading Democrats from beginning the process of quiet jockeying, modest flattery, careful calculation and studied indifference that they hope might make them someone's running mate someday.

"If anybody tells you they wouldn't be interested in being vice president," said Senator John B. Breaux, Democrat of Louisiana, a potential swing state, "they're not telling you the truth."

Four years ago, Mr. Richardson, then Bill Clinton's energy secretary, made no secret of his availability to become the first Latino nominee of either party. This time around, he has appeared by turns with the leading presidential contenders when they visited New Mexico. After Mr. Kerry won Virginia and Tennessee this week, Mr. Richardson called The New York Times unbidden to say, "The time has come to rally around Senator Kerry."

Mr. Kerry, of all people, should know the drill. He was one of three finalists — including Mr. Edwards and Senator Joseph I. Lieberman — considered by Al Gore in 2000 and confessed he had begun drafting notes for a convention acceptance speech before Mr. Gore chose Mr. Lieberman. "I'd be a liar if I didn't say to you there's a little disappointment," Mr. Kerry, who had campaigned energetically for Mr. Gore, told The Boston Globe at the time.

The radio host Don Imus summed up the political reality in a conversation with Mr. Edwards on Thursday morning, saying, "You know, and I know, and everybody knows, you would be willing to take this in a heartbeat, so at what point would you be willing to say that?"

Mr. Edwards just laughed and replied, "I'm not going to say that on your show."

The Democratic National Convention, which would have to ratify any choice, is still more than five months away, and Mr. Kerry himself told Mr. Imus on Friday, "I am a superstitious person, and I think you go one step at a time," then added, "Until I secure the delegates, I am not getting ahead of myself."

Mr. Kerry has good reason to be cautious. Just a month ago, few in his party thought he would be the nominee, and General Clark, who had once suggested that Howard Dean, the former governor of Vermont, had "dangled" the vice-presidential slot in a meeting last summer, snapped at the mere possibility of being someone else's vice president, saying, "I'm not going to be Howard Dean's Dick Cheney."

Two weeks ago, when Mr. Richardson introduced Mr. Edwards at a rally in New Mexico as "the next president," Mr. Edwards responded in a teasing vein. "I intend to beat George Bush," he said, looking at Mr. Richardson, "but you know, there might be something bigger in this man's future, what do you think?" As Mr. Richardson smiled wanly, Mr. Edwards added, "And very well maybe sooner than later."

Now everything looks different.

Mr. Kerry's aides insist he is not thinking about running mates. But the party's handicappers are, and it has not been lost on them that Mr. Kerry recently mocked Mr. Edwards's claims that he could run well in the South, commenting to an aide in remarks not intended to be picked up by microphones, that Mr. Edwards "can't win his own state" of North Carolina in the fall. Mr. Edwards's recent primary defeats in Tennessee and Virginia could be seen as buttressing Mr. Kerry's views.

The last time a vice-presidential nominee was seen as helping carry a vital state was in 1960, when Lyndon B. Johnson may have put John F. Kennedy over the top in Texas. In 1988, Senator Lloyd Bentsen, then the most popular politician in Texas, could not give Michael S. Dukakis similar comfort against the first George Bush.

Still, the debates over regional balance go on.

Could Representative Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri, who ended his own campaign after a fourth-place finish in Iowa, help carry his bellwether state? Some top Democratic officials think so.

Could Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana help Mr. Kerry carry neighboring Ohio? Could Senator Bob Graham, the popular former governor of Florida, or his fellow Senator Bill Nelson, help deliver the state that decided the election four years ago? Could newer, female governors, like Janet Napolitano of Arizona or Kathleen Sibelius of Kansas, bring support in Western states?

"Every one of these potentials, assuming that they're reasonably serious people, now have two things under way," said one veteran Democratic aide who has seen the vice presidential search process from the inside. "One is that they have some kind of historical analysis of `What is the office, what are its powers, how has it changed and how does that align with who I am or who I could claim to be.'

"And the second thing going on is if these people are halfway alert is they are doing a side-by-side of their histories, statements, issue positions and votes with John Kerry, just to see how they fit."

The semipublic vice-presidential auditions conducted by Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Walter F. Mondale in 1984 eventually led to a backlash that shrouded the process in greater secrecy since 1992, when Mr. Gore was picked by Bill Clinton.

Mark Gearan, the president of Hobart and William Smith Colleges who helped handle the process then, said: "It can be helpful to some people to be on the mentioned list, and go through the speculation. But a lot of times, in home states, it may not be. You're mentioned, you look like you have Potomac fever and then you don't get picked. This period is very critical, to allow for the careful research and complete look at all the dimensions someone might bring to a ticket."

The Clinton-Gore combo was widely seen as clicking from the start, despite its defiance of conventional wisdom in picking two Southerners. Some party strategists think Mr. Kerry should choose a running mate as soon as possible, to build support for the Democratic cause.

"The Republicans have a huge financial advantage early on and are loaded for Brahmin," said Jenny Backus, who is not aligned with any campaign. "Kerry has done a great job batting down the labels the G.O.P. wants to stick on him, but he will need some help soon in firing back. Putting together a ticket early helps the Democrats raise money faster and earlier and gives us the ability to fight the media war on more than one front. It also puts a body in front of Kerry to take some of the incoming."

But other Democrats say Mr. Kerry should take his time, hone his own message and test how various candidates might do in polls in their states and regions.

One Kerry adviser said all such talk was premature. "We're as close to being what we say we are as any campaign I've ever seen," he said. "We're really focused on what we say we're doing: winning delegates. I don't know of any talk about the vice presidency."

nytimes.com