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To: Road Walker who wrote (182650)	2/14/2004 7:41:05 PM
From: brian1501	Respond to of 1577060

re: Funny coming from people who think Senators undermining their own country on foreign land are "patriots". The guy went. Your Daddy figured a way to avoid. Who's a patriot? I was talking about McDermott and his crew that went to Iraq (minor points for mistaking him for a Senator rather than a Congressman), but you should have been able to figure that out. You sure like to get personal. What are you, 2 years old? Can't make a point like an adult, so you resort to names and sarcasm? You have no idea who my Dad is, nor how he served his country. You can jump to whatever conclusion you want, but you are flailing around like an idiot. What have you done? What did your Daddy do? The guy is a war hero, you are a sh-t faced coward. A "chicken-hawk". While you're comparing credentials, WTF have you done? What did Clinton do (run away)? Do you have a grudge against him as well, or are you a hypocrite? Pot, kettle, black (and an a$$hole to boot!). Have a good day you POS. John What a jackass. You sure have the right party emblem. Brian

To: Road Walker who wrote (182650)	2/14/2004 8:22:03 PM
From: Buckwheat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577060

Perhaps you guys would like to learn the real truth of reserve component participation in conflict throughout out history (to include Vietnam) and the reasons for the varying degrees of participation. Or perhaps you will choose to remain ignorant and go on taking hip-shot articles from the misinformed as the absolute truth. All of the reserve components had been left in a general state of decline since the end of WWII. The decline accelerated more rapidly after the Korean War. Most reserve units, to include air, were poorly equipped or trained to handle jungle warfare in SE Asia. There were medical units, field artillery, ADA, air recon, air resupply, and other exceptional type combat support and service support units that were called up and participated in SE Asia. Of the remaining units, many of them were war traced to theaters that were known to require more conventional type warfare. Don't forget Europe, Korea, and Cuba that were still of greater cause for concern. Because of much of the above, our higher ups, in their infinite wisdom, decided to fight the war in SE Asia differently than in the past. Large military organizations were left in place for most of the duration, and soldiers were rotated in and out as fillers for the most part. So the large organizations provided little in the way of real unit integrity. They functioned largely as large shells, having small cadres, that soldiers (individuals) were run through every 12 or 13 months. But this was a cheap way of addressing a major conflict when we had many other concerns around the world. Draftees back then were paid about 40 or 50 bucks a month. This was before Nixon supported the largest pay increase in military history. In hindsight this was a very poor environment for developing unit proficiency and cohesion. Forces were never deployed like this before and were never deployed like this afterwards. Perhaps it was a cheap lesson in dollars but a very costly one in lives. Every party and administration is guilty of having its less than golden moments. You guys that are so down on the Republicans might want to read a little about McNamara's 100,000. And those of you calling Bush a warmonger might want to read up on a southern Baptist Democrat and his connections with a former Iraq and the killing of hundreds of thousands of Iranians. With the end of the cold war, all of you should have noted the increased participation of reserve component forces in recent conflicts. This has been brought about because of down-sizing on the active side, lessening of the European threat, BRAC, a renewed effort to measure relevance, and many other factors. I won't attempt to argue with anyone who can only find cowards in the Bush administration. An honest unbiased look at each of the members might give one a glimpse of real courage. Like mph or someone stated...you have to look at where a person is or has been standing or sitting. Buck