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To: LindyBill who wrote (29624)	2/17/2004 12:54:05 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

Lindy, I like sport, but apart from soccer up to about age 14, and individual sports [like golf, skiing, swimming, running snooker] which I did for fun with friends, I couldn't be bothered. Cricket was a total bore to me so only played one season as a youngster. Rugby was fun until people started stiff arm tackles to the head and other viciousness. People are just too aggressive for my liking in sport. They cheat, are physically vicious, now they are taking drugs - anything to win. It's just violent, territorial, tribal chimpoid behaviour. So it's not surprising that they call "Osama". Muhammed Ali said very nasty things to opponents to shake them up. Barbarians act like barbarians. It's not news. One of the nicest sights in sport was Eldrick Woods strolling down the 18th at Augusta, smiling and happy with a record score as a bright young adult [age 18 I think]. I like the guy from about 80 years ago, who started Augusta and played golf for fun as an amateur, winning constantly, including the "slam" or was it the "grand slam". He seems to have been a real sportsman. He was on the History Channel the other day. In geopolitics too, the game should be played like that guy, not like the vicious, cheating, anything goes, unethical, immoral and violent dominance business it is. There's no reason that geopolitics can't be dealt with in a fun and civilized way. Compete for money, votes and enjoy success like that, not by having the most vicious soldiers. Unfortunately, while there are people like Osama, Stalin, Hitler and co and Jiang Zemin who will murder Taiwanese to get his way, we are stuck with playing their game, at least to some extent. Even they can probably be civilized to some extent [not appeased] with good handling. Mqurice

To: LindyBill who wrote (29624)	2/17/2004 1:12:07 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

I wouldn't get too outraged about it, LB. You've got to take in context--the US beat Mexico in the last World Cup, a loss that still reverberates in the Mexican psyche. This was the payback, especially since the Mexican team won despite being underdogs. The previous rankling WC loss was like the Soviets losing to the US Olympic hockey team in 1980. A big, big deal. More gringo oppression--where will it all end?--kind of thing. As a result, everything was fair game, including OBL. It was in a sporting context, though. The average Mexican, even the average soccer fan, sympathizes hugely with the US for the losses suffered on 9/11. Just don't ask him to be fair when it comes to soccer, especially when it means knowcking the US out of the next WC.