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To: LindyBill who wrote (29658)2/15/2004 4:35:20 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793808
 
So it has come to this - a choice of scandals
Mark Steyn

There are two "scandals" in American politics at the moment: the first features George W Bush and whether he was a "deserter", as Michael Moore, Hollywood's celebrated Leftie lardbutt, puts it. This goes back three decades to when Mr Bush was a young pilot in the Texas Air National Guard, the so-called "weekend warriors". By desertion, Moore and co mean that there were a lot of weekends when the warrior didn't show up. Terry McAuliffe, the highest-ranking official of the Democratic Party, prefers the term "Awol". He doesn't offer any evidence to support the accusation.

But, if you switch on pretty much any cable news station any time of day, you can find them going on about this "scandal". Their general philosophy is encapsulated by the headline on a recent column in Newsday: "Is Bush A 'Deserter'? It Doesn't Hurt To Ask." And they do. In return, John Kerry, the Democratic Presidential front-runner, portentously declines to comment, adding, "It's not my record that's at issue." This is a not so subtle reminder that, when Bush was doing a bit of dilettante piloting over Texas and Alabama, Kerry was getting shot up in Vietnam.

Actually, that is not strictly true. In the period when Bush was in the National Guard, Kerry was an angry Vietnam veteran protesting with Jane Fonda and accusing his comrades of being drug-addled rapists, torturers, mutilators and murderers committing war crimes on a scale surpassing the Japanese and the Nazis. But that's a mere detail. To the media, the contrast is simple: Kerry = war hero; Bush = something smaller, shiftier. Bill Clinton, of course, is smallest and shiftiest of the lot, but, back in '92, John Kerry stood shoulder to shoulder with his fellow Democrat and said, "We do not need to divide America over who served and how." Now, apparently, we do. So Kerry has his supporter Max Cleland, former Senator, fellow veteran and triple amputee, all over the talk-shows, explaining that the difference between giving Clinton a pass on draft-dodging and hammering relentlessly on Bush's National Guard record is that in 2004 "it's the national security, stupid. We want a President who can really be Commander-in-Chief". And the fact that Bush, as Commander-in-Chief, has liberated two countries, overthrown the Taliban and slung Saddam in jail counts for less than whether he bunked off for the weekend in 1972.

Insofar as there is any basis for this scandal, it rests on the word of one discredited witness plus one retired general with the name of Turnipseed who said four years ago he had no memory of seeing young Lt Bush at the base in Alabama. General Turnipseed later said that he didn't necessarily mean Bush wasn't there, and later still said he wasn't even sure he himself was there at the time in question. But it didn't matter. By the time an offhand remark had found its way to Michael Moore, it had become a charge of "desertion".

Now let's consider the Kerry scandal: If you read the British newspapers, you'll know all about it. It's not about whether he was Absent Without Leave, but the more familiar political failing of being Absent Without Pants. It concerns a 24-year old woman - ie, 41 years younger than Mrs Kerry - and, with their usual efficiency, the Fleet Street lads have already interviewed her dad, who's called Kerry a "sleazeball". But if you read the US newspapers or watch the news shows there's not a word about the Senator's scandal. Though it seems to have a somewhat sounder factual basis, and at least one witness more relevant to this situation than the loose-lipped Gen Turniphead was to Mr Bush's, it's the media that's gone Awol. In this case, it seems it would hurt to ask. So Mr Bush has been unable to do the John Kerry routine, declining to comment but adding that "it's not my marital record that's at issue". We have two flimsy "scandals" tangentially related to character, but only one of them's all over the networks.

I don't want this election fought as the Adulterer vs the Deserter. The "politics of personal destruction" is insufficient to the times, and an insult to the entirely non-metaphorical personal destruction of thousands of Americans that took place on September 11. But the Democrats don't have any ideas on that score - Sen Kerry offers the usual lazy platitudes about working through the UN. So he's running on "character" instead: he was in the jungle, Bush wasn't. True. All Bush did was learn to fly an F-102, which is one serious plane. Bill Clinton can't do that and nor can all the baby-boom reporters huffin' an' a-puffin' about Lt Bush's 30-year-old payslips. By the standards of his generation, what Bush did in the 1970s was good enough.

More to the point, whatever Bush did or didn't do back in those days is consistent with who he is. As horrified European commentators are fond of pointing out, Mr Bush is a "born-again" Christian. We don't need to see grainy home movies of a soused goofball in a Mexican bar face down in the beer nuts to know more or less the kind of guy he was 30 years ago. But he changed; he was born again. If you found some video of Bush rat-arsed (as the British say) in 1974, how relevant is that to the abstemious tucked-in-by-nine family man of 2004? In that sense, even if everything the accusers said was true - that he was an absentee Guardsman - it's not inconsistent with the official Bush narrative.

By contrast, the Kerry narrative is almost impenetrable. If Vietnam bitterly divided a nation, split communities, tore apart families, etc, etc, Sen Kerry somehow managed to wind up on both sides of the fence: in the 1960s, he was John Wayne taking out the gooks in 'Nam; in the 1970s, he was Hanoi Jane Fonda, leading the protest movement; now, after two decades in Congress opposing every new weapons system for America's military, he's campaigning like Bob Hope on a USO tour flanked by wall-to-wall veterans. What story accounts for Senator Flip-Flop these past 40 years?

If character is the issue, Bush can relax. And, if doing your bit for national security is the issue, then John Kerry's been Awol for two decades.

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To: LindyBill who wrote (29658)2/15/2004 7:08:51 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793808
 
This raised my eyebrows also. But attacking him on his Vietnam actions will boomerang, IMO. The more people talk about it, the better for him.

LB,
I suppose the election will eventually settle this. I believe most folks realize it takes much more than a few combat awards to qualify to be POTUS.

Many different veteran's groups are coming out of the woodwork to actively oppose Kerry. Clark's endorsement did not help him a bit. It probably exacerbated the negative Veterans' response as most do not like Clark too.

I am interested in seeing if FL gets a response on his direct inquiry to Kerry about some of the issues like only serving 33% of a normal combat tour.

I believe this:
Kerry paints himself as a hero. The lack of officer substantiation of his actions indicate he was probably the only officer around his actions, so he likely wrote and submitted his own award citations.

Kerry paints himself as a great warrior. The truth is Kerry personally initiated action to abandon his troops and be relieved from his battlefield command during combat. He fled from the battlefield after a brief engagement and 8 months before the rest of his men could leave. Those are hardly heroic actions for a battlefield commander. I have commanded American soldiers in combat and would consider such actions cowardly. I would love to see Kerry's Officer Efficiency or Fitness Reports. Perhaps they will be revealed. I cannot believe his commanders saw any of this as heroic. Hopefully they reflected that in writing.

Kerry paints himself as a veterans advocate. The truth is Kerry accused his fellow war veterans of wickedly horrible war crimes that he had no personal knowledge of. These are charges that he never backed up.

I spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with 15 retired Green Berets. 14 are Vietnam Vets. All retired as officers or Sergeants Major. All have extensive battlefield experience, most in more than one conflict. These men served around conventional US Forces all over the world, always at the front. None could verify any of Kerry's unsubstantiated charges. None have ever witnessed anything even close to the horrors Kerry charged American soldiers with.

The internet picture is not important...though I am glad you pointed out it is fake. The picture of Kerry that is important is the one found in veterans' minds.

A man who writes his own awards as Kerry likely did, then uses those awards to flee from a combat command, though he is 100% fit for duty, may be a hero to fonda and hippies, but he will never be considered a war hero by American war veterans. US officers consider combat command an honor and a sacred duty. Any capable officer who departs on his own, leaving his men on a battlefield for personal reasons, immediately loses any and ALL respect.

Though I do respect Kerry's service, I believe, like some others, that his Vietnam rants are outrageously overdone, are totally out of line, and have been for 35 years. Kerry is a legend only in his own mind. His actions remind me of a vet with PTSD. Hopefully he will go to the VA for counseling soon, so he can get over his Vietnam syndrome.
unclewest



To: LindyBill who wrote (29658)2/15/2004 10:16:02 AM
From: Jack Hartmann  Respond to of 793808
 
The more people talk about it, the better for him.


I agree. I think so many did whatever it took to get out of going over there during 1968-1973, that the "whiner cause of a scratch" and "scared rich boy" label won't work.

Trying to say 4 months is too short to get those awards is not true. I worked with a person who got wounded twice in a couple of months. Nothing that stitches didn't fix. But still a purple heart. It could have been fatal. Kerry and his crew were shot at. Being under potential fire is no easy task.

CCR said it best in "Fortunate Son"
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no millionaire's son.
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no.