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To: Alighieri who wrote (182691)	2/15/2004 5:49:33 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578244

We were busy acquiescing to the will of the UN and withdrew to Kuwait. Everyone in the USA complained Bush Sr. should have ignored the UN and continued on to Baghdad. Your history is a little off...the Iran war came long before the invasion of Kuwait, and during that dirty war, during which he caused the massive casualties which BW and rather disingenous folks today refer to as shockingly brutal, we stood by and did nothing but make sure that it went on for eight years. Back then he was our SOB in the region. Do a little research and I promise you will be more than a little embarassed at the American politics of the time. Some of the people in power today were involved in assisting the man in perpetrating the very brutality we find so shocking today. I could continue to comment on your post...but generally speaking i think you know that we use the cover of the UN as conveniently as our need require it, to suit whatever political goal we happen to be pursuing...and sometimes we even ignore the UN to suit those same political goals. Al, I think what Eric was saying is that instead of supporting Saddam in the '80s, we should have intervened then on humanitarian grounds. Although I don't like pre-emptive war, I tend to agree with Eric it would have been better then than now. ted

To: Alighieri who wrote (182691)	2/16/2004 10:45:44 AM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578244

Al, You said: "The time to have justified forceful intervention in Iraq on humanitarian grounds was indeed during the Iran war and directly after the 1991 gulf war" - we left the job unfinished according to many pundits around the world. Perhaps you should pay more attention to your own words and as for the 80's - I'm not embarrassed at all, we were fighting what we thought was the greater evil. As for "but generally speaking i think you know that we use the cover of the UN as conveniently as our need require it, to suit whatever political goal we happen to be pursuing..." same could be said of the Democratic attempts to manipulate the situation now for political purposes. It's called politics - if the UN was about solving issues or helping people they would have committed troops after the 91 gulf war themselves instead of waiting for the US to create a no fly zone.