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To: zeta1961 who wrote (46317)2/15/2004 8:18:34 PM
From: tom pope  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to say, in my befuddled way!

you don't have the "cultural license" for your "joke" to be funny.



To: zeta1961 who wrote (46317)2/15/2004 8:44:38 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
<you don't have the "cultural license" for your "joke" to be funny. >

Yes I do Zeta. It's a small world and while the USA is the main focus of AlQ attentions, you might have heard of the bombing in Bali and that quite a few people from around the world were involved with the 911 attacks, a Kiwi's opendemocracy.net remnants being in the cockpit of the aircraft which didn't reach its target thanks to his and others' actions in attacking the hijackers.

Ownership of cultural identity is just another tribalistic attitude used to separate "us" from "others". The USA is trying to 'own' victimhood and the WAT, but Kiwi Stan Shaw had his head cut off in Chechnya and left on the side of a road. There's a ring of fire, head-hacking and murder around the world of Islamic Jihad. Philippines, China, Russia, Europe, East Timor and Australia have all felt the murderous hand.

I'm not a foreigner far from the situation, whether you like it or understand it or not. If anything, NZ makes a soft target, just as Iraqi collaborators are easier targets than USA soldiers, so they are the ones being attacked now. So far, we've been lucky [apart from those killed in Bali and on 911 in the aircraft in Pennsylvania]. NZers are all over the world, so we are vulnerable both here and overseas.

Who issues the humour permits? You? It's actually quite offensive for you to have that attitude; deciding who is in the club and who isn't. <that remark would have greeted you with some furrowed brows, to say the least...in New Zealand...in NY, probably not as polite...
> I'm being polite, because I assume you just don't understand. Rude ignorance can be foregiven. Oh, all of a sudden, I'm the victim. What a fun game that is - playing the victim.

Mqurice