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To: Brumar89 who wrote (6988)	2/17/2004 9:37:00 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Al Qaeda are not part of the armed forces of a nation. And the Taliban they were fighting with was not an armed force of an internationally recognized government either. (1) says "Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict, as well as members or militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces". You should be able to see that Taliban were "Party to the conflict conflict" and Al-Qaeda and nationals of other countries can very well be "militias or volunteer corps". There is nothing in the Geneva Convention that refers to the necessity of the captured to belong to an armed force of an "internationally recognized government". Being party to the conflict seems to be enough. Al Qaeda wouldn't meet that 6 either. They weren't inhabitants of Afghanistan Excuse me? I thought the reason why US attacked Afghanistan in the first place was because Bin Ladin et al LIVED THERE and the Taliban refused to give them up. Besides, there is an important issue you seem to be missing: WE DON'T KNOW IF ALL GUANTANAMO DETAINEES ARE AL-QAEDA. And we never will if they are locked up forever incommunicado. THAT is why they need to have access to lawyers and courts. The fact that the US has released a bunch of detainees ought to demonstrate that the US isn't trying to hold innocent persons Good. You are beginning to see that not all Guantanamo detainees are Al-Qaeda. Treatment of the detainees as POW's would hamper investigation That's too bad. But the Geneva Convention is quite clear. They are human beings, after all, some of whom is probably quite innocent and does not deserve to be there for one minute, let alone a lifetime. They need to have a chance to make their case. We'd never get anymore information from them and in fact asking them would be forbidden. Any information you did not "get" in two years probably does not exist. You and I both know the detainees in Guantanamo were captured on the battleground in Afghanistan Sure. Some of them captured in battlegrounds. Others captured and SOLD to Americans by Pakistanis etc in a bounty hunt, because there was a bounty on captured Al-Qaeda, and they could practically sell anyone they said was Al-Qaeda to US forces. Take a look here: globalresearch.ca theatlantic.com Here's what the POW angle is all about - setting them free Are you trying to diminish the Geneva Convention by calling it an "angle"? If so, it does not really work. There are enough people who can see your "angle" for what it is - complete disrespect for the Geneva Convention which your country signed and hence is bound by.