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To: goldworldnet who wrote (541580)	2/17/2004 3:48:21 PM
From: redfish	Respond to of 769670

Nor is there "Dios" or "God."

To: goldworldnet who wrote (541580)	2/17/2004 3:53:28 PM
From: gerard mangiardi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Allah is the arabic word for God. God isn't in the bible either. It wasn't written in English. You are much smarter than this Josh.

To: goldworldnet who wrote (541580)	2/18/2004 1:10:59 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

I have to come down on the side of gerard in this. If Allah is the God of Ishmael, then it is the God of Abraham, and therefore the same God who is worshipped by Jews and Christians. One may question the veracity of the alleged revelation to Mahomet, and whether the Muslim notion of God is accurate, but one should remember that according to tradition, Job was not a Hebrew, and nevertheless worshipped God in a satisfactory manner. According to rabbinic tradition, the Noahides, who know God through reason, rather than revelation, and who seek to follow the precepts of morality as best they can, are considered righteous. So it would be the Jewish point of view that Allah was an attempt, at least, to conceive of the true God, and represented an intention to worship Him. According to Catholic tradition, there is something called "the baptism of desire", which means that if someone is prevented by invincible ignorance from grasping the Gospel, but seeks purity of worship and fidelity to the moral law, doing his best under the dispensation under which he lives, then he is taken to be baptised, and capable of salvation. This has been extended to include those deemed psychologically incapable of breaking from the religion of their fathers, even by some conservative Catholics, like William F. Buckley. On that ground, too, a worshipper of Allah could be deemed someone worshipping the true God through a humanly fallible conception.

To: goldworldnet who wrote (541580)	2/18/2004 1:16:05 PM
From: zonder	Respond to of 769670

"Allah" is the word in Arabic for "God". It is not a separate deity.

To: goldworldnet who wrote (541580)	2/18/2004 1:19:46 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

In the Bible, God is called Elohim, Yahweh, Eli, and some other names. "God" is derived from the Low Germanic term for a deity....

To: goldworldnet who wrote (541580)	2/18/2004 3:20:08 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

What heathens fail to understand is that simply being monotheistic and making the claim to worship the "God of Abraham" is worthless if this God does not recognize you as being of His people. According to the Hebrew Scriptures, God made an eternal promise to only one people, the Hebrews. He did not utter such a promise to any other. So if the Arabs are of Ishamael or any other father, they are of a group that lies outside of God's promise and thus their islamic path to God is futile. True Christians cannot possibly worship the same god as allah, since the islamic god can be reached outside of the Hebrew God's promise. Allah is clearly different from the God of Israel. So then how do gentiles, who are not of themselves people of the promise, worship the God of Israel? We worship Him through the Means by which God fulfills His promise to Israel - The Christ. The proof of islam's difference is that it has no part of this promise and thus has no part of the God Who made it.