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To: Dennis O'Bell who wrote (124827)2/19/2004 8:19:48 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
This situation in Saudi Arabia is unique, and doesn't fit any stereotypical molds of "mercantilist capitalism". In particular, they themselves paid for all the work we've done in modernizing the country - this is why there was never any congressional oversight (or meddling) of the many programs that were executed, no taxpayer money was involved

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say that no US taxpayer money was involved. We've spent BILLIONS defending Saudi Arabia from its enemies.

And while I might not mind the US spending money to protect a developing democracy, I'm not particularly keen on doing so for the likes of a autocratic monarchy... Especially one that has spent the kind of money some Saudis have to spread Islamic militancy and intolerance.

One thing Saudi Arabia does very well is explode the pleasant myth that if we just let countries become prosperous enough to afford the trappings of American society, that somehow, as if by magic, they'll become more democratic and we'll "win" the battle of spreading democracy without firing a shot.

Hmmm.... I don't know where you heard that "myth", but I'm not acquainted with it..

The only myth being "exploded" is that the Saudis can be counted upon to keep the region stable and remain the friends of the US..

If anything, it confirms the dictum that a government which remains unaccountable to its citizens through an electoral process, will indulge itself with luxurious excess at the expense of the people..

The primary problem in Saudi Arabia is that all of that tremendous oil wealth does not belong to the people of that country. It belongs to 23,000 members of the Saudi royal family who, after they've each received their "cut", spread out the rest to those who will support, and/or protect, their regime.

Germany and Japan were turned around, but at what a cost, and those situations were again unique enough that they just don't extrapolate as to what the general policies should be elsewhere, today.

And exactly how were they "turned around"?? It certainly wasn't by defending and protecting the existing power elite. We accomplished it by completely overturning the existing socio-political order and installing one that was implicitly accountable to its own citizens for governing authority.

Hawk