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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (124862)	2/20/2004 12:51:02 PM
From: boris_a	Respond to of 281500

"like chimp tribes fighting - no ethics or morals;" Uh-oh, the Nazis had high ethics and morals. They talked about all the time. They considered themselves more like an instrument selected by fate. Of course, they have been able to fill their bourses in this process. Ask the Halliburton gang about how lucrative can be the challenge of nation building and spreading freedom. I prefer Dschuang-Dsi here: "Tearing down the mountains of morality will fill up the valleys at the same time." "each time 50 Americans are killed, another Moslem city is warned to evacuate and then nuked, starting with Mecca." Hey, you're not shy! The original Herrenmenschen worked on a modest 10:1 ratio.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (124862)	2/20/2004 2:11:46 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<Suppose Islamic Jihad succeeds in nuking an American city or something serious. I suspect it might be instructive to said Jihadis if each time 50 Americans are killed, another Moslem city is warned to evacuate and then nuked, starting with Mecca.> What "Islamic Jihad" cities? Mecca? The Saudi and American elite do ski vacations together at Vail, and have for decades. The Bush family is on intimate terms with the Saudi royals. I guarantee you, that when an American city is nuked (and it's only a matter of time), every government on earth will loudly denounce it, and offer their assistance and condolences. Especially the ones who allow de facto terrorist safe havens on their soil. After 9/11, there was a collective urge in America to Hit Back. Since our intel was defective, most of our Hitting Back in the last two years, has been random and counter-productive. After we are nuked, we will again want to Hit Back, massively. If our Hitting Back is ineffective because it is random, then Hitting Back harder doesn't work any better. After an American city is nuked, there will be serious proposals, for America to solve our national security problems, by killing several hundred million Muslims. Or by occupying 30 Muslim nations, with a 10-million-strong army of draftees (the Israelization of America; turning the entire Muslim world into a West Bank). And people like me and you and Carl will end up in concentration camps. We will be called terrorist sympathizers, cowards, and traitors. That's where the people who think they can solve problems by Hitting Back are taking us. And they call themselves Realists.