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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (30610)	2/20/2004 5:56:35 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793848

Hi Nadine, How about david duke trying to take us back to a time before Pope John 23. The funny thing is that this will play better with evangelicals than catholics. They have superficial knowledge of the new testament and now a glitzy movie, OY. Maybe Gibson is more like oliver stone with his bizarre views becoming believable history to folks who just have a vague idea of what happened( eg jfk assasinantion). Mike

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (30610)	2/20/2004 5:56:51 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 793848

Hi Nadine, How about david duke trying to take us back to a time before Pope John 23. The funny thing is that this will play better with evangelicals than catholics. They have superficial knowledge of the new testament and now a glitzy movie, OY. Maybe Gibson is more like oliver stone with his bizarre views becoming believable history to folks who just have a vague idea of what happened( eg jfk assasinantion). Mike@isortofknowwhatscoming.com

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (30610)	2/20/2004 6:03:34 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793848

It's clear that the crucifixion will adhere to medieval and renaissance imagery of the crucifixion, not at all to actual Roman practice, When I first posted on Mel's movie, I knew it was going to be a major subject of conversation here. It certainly has been today! Knowing the normal Box Office failure of this genre, I did not expect him to do this good a job of promoting it. This is turning into another example of how bypassing the Major Media with a subject they don't like can work. We just saw it with Arnold's campaign. I don't think Mel, et al, planned it that way, but the reaction of people like Rich of the Times worked to the Movie's advantage when they went directly to the Churches. It got the Evangelicals' back up. When I saw pictures from the Movie showing "Christ" carrying a cross, I knew it was not totally realistic. The Roman method was that the main timber was carried by the person to be crucified, and the cross piece was roped on at the site after it had been planted in the ground.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (30610)	2/20/2004 6:42:02 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793848

I didn't realize that Okrent is limited to 18 months. dokrent - 1:35 PM ET February 20, 2004 (#11 of 11) Some people on the staff of The Times have asked me about my outside affiliations, and whether they pose any conflict with my duties as public editor. It's all pretty straightforward: before officially signing on, I told executive editor Bill Keller, in writing, about all my professional and charitable affiliations. As a freelance contractor, I was not bound by the employee ethics guidelines, but nonetheless wanted to make certain that no conflict was perceived. Given that my tenure here is limited to a term of 18 months, neither Keller nor I felt it reasonable, or necessary, for me to break off from institutions I would expect to be involved with after I leave this position so long as there was no apparent conflict (apparent conflict did leave me to cease doing any consulting work for my former employer, Time Inc., as it was clearly a competitive institution). I told him that I was a board member of Zinio Inc., a private company involved in the digital distribution of printed matter; that I was a commissioner (and slated, in December, to be named chairman of the commission) of the National Portrait Gallery, a division of the Smithsonian Institution; and that in the summer of 2003 I began discussions with TESSCO Technologies Inc., a wholesaler of wireless telephone equipment, about possibly joining their board (I did so in mid-January). Consequently, we agreed that should I ever become engaged in an issue (or decline to become engaged in an issue) relating to the wireless telephone industry; the digital distribution industry; art museums in general; the Smithsonian in particular; or any other individual or institution with which I am affiliated, I would disclose this loudly and frequently. Even though I haven't seen any such issues coming across my screen to date, at the request of a couple staff members let the disclosure begin right here.