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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (30643)	2/20/2004 8:20:01 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 793838

The film seems to be based just as heavily on the visions of two seventeenth century nuns as on the Gospels. I read that months ago, but nothing I've seen so far confirms it. The one thing I've seen so far that isn't explicit in the Gospels is Satan hanging out watching things, which I don't think is a far extrapolation from the nature of Satan as portrayed in both the New and the Old Testament. Our local theater just announced that they're showing it, which brings it much closer than the ones listed earlier in the week. We're headed out for barbecue at Red Hot and Blue, will take a pass by that theater to see if we can get advance tickets.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (30643)	2/20/2004 10:57:33 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793838

OK, I have four tickets for the 7:30 show for Wednesday. My husband is devout Lutheran, I am a so-so Catholic, both read the Gospels often, as I've described, the Lattimore version. I'll be on the lookout for bad craziness. On a sour note, Joe Sobran - whom I ordinarily like - is passing on some pretty moronic stuff about the Talmud and Jesus which I won't repeat here but will give the link. sobran.com I got into this issue with Thomas M. (PLO supporter) on SI a while back, pre 9/11, I think that summer. I bookmarked a lot of links but that computer is sitting on the floor of my bedroom, and trying to find refutation without firing it back up unfortunately requires passing through the slime belt - stormfront.org, davidduke.com - but I managed to find one voice of sanity. LindyBill runs a tight ship so I hope this will be enough - it ought to be a very obscure point but if Sobran is passing it off as true, that is worrisome. I think he may be Catholic, so am surprised that he passes this stuff on without questioning it. talmud.faithweb.com At any rate, I did bookmark some very scholarly articles on the websites of prestigious universities, written by scholars who can read Hebrew and know the history of the time, and am satisfied that the allegations are baseless, and this event counts as an example of bad craziness. As does Hutton Gibson's recent pronouncements on the Holocaust. OT - the barbecue place was full so we had Szechuan at China Star. The Lake Windless prawns were superb, the Tsiangdo crisp and cold. I love globalization!