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To: Amy J who wrote (17645)	2/23/2004 10:13:54 AM
From: Tradelite	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 306849

<<It's wrong for AG to imply it's good enough if they go to a community college. He's not getting the message right. He's living in the 80s where community college was enough. These engineers need to get re-engineered into more specialized areas of engineer. Get to the next level. >> Amy, Greenspan is not necessarily focusing on retraining the already-educated, such as engineers. Look at these jobless figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, as published in Wash Post yesterday in a story about what Greenie is talking about when he says the U.S. needs to become better educated.... Unemployment rates as of Jan. 2004 for adults aged 25 and older, by educational levels: No high school diploma--8.8 percent unemployment High school graduates--4.9 percent unemployment Some college or associate degree--4.5 percent unemployment Bachelor's degree or higher--2.9 percent unemployment As long as we're lamenting the offshoring of jobs and ongoing layoffs in the manufacturing sector, we should also recognize exactly who the affected workers are and how and why they are affected, in my humble opinion. I would expect engineers to be able to take care of themselves one way or another, in terms of being able to afford and pursue alternative and higher education if needed for career success. The deeper problem is that--despite warnings issued on this subject for decades now by government policymakers and educators--too many Americans still think they can either skip a high school degree or get nothing more than a high school degree , and then blindly follow their parents, aunts, uncles and older siblings into comfortable hourly-wage factory jobs on an assembly line. These jobs no longer exist in great numbers, so the kids need to wake up, and the educational system needs to encourage them in more and better ways to get the background they need for the types of jobs which ARE available.