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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (3642)2/23/2004 9:25:26 AM
From: JagfanRespond to of 81568
 
This is oh so transparent. You've heard about that letter that John Kerry sent to President Bush, haven't you? Listen to this: Kerry wrote Bush saying "Over the last week you and your campaign have initiated a widespread attack on my service in Vietnam, my decision to speak out to end that war, and my commitment to the defense of this nation." What B.S.

What prompted this letter? A statement from Georgia Senator Saxby Chambless saying "When you have a 32-year history of voting to cut defense programs and cut defense systems folks in Georgia are going to look beyond what he says and look at his voting record."

No look again at what Chambliss said:

"When you have a 32-year history of voting to cut defense programs and cut defense systems folks in Georgia are going to look beyond what he says and look at his voting record."

And look again at what Kerry wrote to Bush:

"Over the last week you and your campaign have initiated a widespread attack on my service in Vietnam, my decision to speak out to end that war, and my commitment to the defense of this nation."

You did notice, didn't you, that Chambliss' statement made absolutely no mention whatsoever of Kerry's service in Vietnam or his speaking out against the war. Chambliss' statement was directed at Kerry's voting record. Kerry knows it, and he knows that his voting record on defense is indefensible. So ... the game plan here is to turn every single criticism of Kerry's voting record in the U.S. Senate into a slam on his service in Vietnam and his antiwar activities.

The Democrats want you to believe that if you go to Vietnam, suffer three minor wounds, two of which don't even take you off the battlefield, and then head back to the United States with four months of Vietnam service under your belt, you are forever inoculated against any charge that you have a weak voting record on national defense.

That's the Max Cleland approach. Cleland goes to Vietnam, suffers greatly as a result of an accident that did not occur in battle, and then becomes a United States Senator who believes that he can use his Vietnam service as a protective cloak while voting repeatedly against homeland security measures until government employee unions are satisfied that they will be essentially running the show. If your political opponent happens to mention this pandering to government employee unions, you are assailing his patriotism.

If you have any rational and logical thought capabilities at all ... in other words, if you don't vote Democratic .... you can easily see how John Kerry formulated his game plan for seeking the presidency.

JUST IN:
New picture of John Kerry with Jane Fonda has surfaced.
When Kerry first started dreaming of a run for the candidacy he knew that he had some pretty tough things to overcome. His protests against the Vietnam war were going to be somewhat of a problem at a time when American soldiers are fighting terrorism abroad. Kerry knew that his Vietnam protests problem would be compounded by his association with Jane Fonda and the statements he made to congress about the actions of American soldiers in Vietnam. He also knew he would have a problem with that event staged for the media where he claimed to throw his Vietnam medals over a fence at the Capitol. (It was later revealed that Kerry actually kept his medals, but threw away the medals of another Vietnam vet.).

Then there was Kerry's voting record in the Senate. It wasn't exactly the voting record one would want to bring to a campaign at a time when America is fighting a war against terrorism. Kerry has voted against almost every new Pentagon weapons program since he was sworn in. He voted against pushing Saddam out of Kuwait in 1991 and voted against continued funding of our efforts in Iraq in 2003.

Antiwar protests --- an association with Jane Fonda --- slandering American soldiers --- propping up Saddam --- an anti-military voting record --- plus a record in Vietnam that isn't quite as gleaming as the media portrays ... all campaign problems to be dealt with.

So ... here's the plan:

First you start bringing up your service in Vietnam in every single campaign appearance. Every single time you open your mouth before a group of people you mention that "Oh, by the way, I served in Vietnam."

After virtually every American with a television set knows full well that you served in Vietnam, you send your myrmidons out to question Bush's service in the National Guard. Democratic party hacks and operatives are enlisted to use terms like "AWOL" and "deserter" in describing Bush's service. All the while you pretend to take the high road by staying above the fray, though you do make a public statement that equates service in the National Guard with dodging the draft.

OK ... the stage is set. You are a Vietnam hero ... and Bush, having hidden in the Air National Guard, is essentially a glorified draft dodger. Now every single time your protests, your association with Fonda, your lies about American soldiers in Vietnam, your strongly anti-military voting record in the Senate, and your absurd idea that terrorism is a law enforcement, not a military problem is brought up, you can bellow that a man who didn't serve in Vietnam is challenging the patriotism of a man who did.

Do you want to see the Kerry game plan in action? Just this weekend Kerry told reporters "I don't know what it is that the Republicans who didn't serve in any war have against those of us who are Democrats who did."

See how easy it is? His anti-defense voting record means nothing. His vote against continued funding for our troops in Iraq means nothing. His vote against pushing Saddam out of Kuwait ..... all of this doesn't matter because HE served in Vietnam and the people who are criticizing his votes didn't.

Thankfully, the Bush campaign folks aren't going to be intimidated by this "You can't criticize me, I served in Vietnam" tactic. Yesterday the Bush campaign responded to Kerry's absurd and transparent letter: "Our campaign is not questioning your patriotism or your military service, but your votes and statements on issues now facing our country. Senator Chambliss addressed your Senate record of voting against the weapons systems that are winning the war on terror."

Just watch the campaign, my friends ... and see how well the Kerry strategy works. The media will love it and will prop it up until they look ridiculous doing so.


boortz.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (3642)2/23/2004 9:43:23 AM
From: tontoRespond to of 81568
 
TOS for spamming...(s)

Subject:PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH
Reply #544082, Date: February 23, 2004 8:57 AM
Kerry: "He didn't tell us the truth about the war. He didn't tell us the truth...




Subject:John Kerry for President
Reply #3642, Date: February 23, 2004 8:56 AM
Kerry: "He didn't tell us the truth about the war. He didn't tell us the truth...



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (3642)2/23/2004 9:44:21 AM
From: JakeStrawRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
John Kerry: From “Bring it On” to Victim

Feb 23, 2004

“Now, George Bush and Karl Rove say that they intend to make national security the central issue of this campaign. Well, I know something about aircraft carriers for real. And if George Bush wants to make national security the central issue of this campaign, we have three words for him we know he understands: Bring it on!” - John Kerry, 2004 on the stump.

In an almost surreal moment leading democratic presidential contender John F. Kerry seemed legitimately shocked and outraged that the Bush campaign did exactly what they said they would do. Begin to make national security a central issue of this 2004 presidential campaign. At Kerry’s “bring it on” invitation the Bush camp began pointing out his historically poor voting record in the Senate on matters of defense and national security over the weekend.

With what will likely be one of the lightest volleys Kerry will face on his voting record for the next eight months Georgia Senator Saxby Chambliss first acknowledged Kerry’s Viet Nam service in a conference call to reporters. Chambliss then commented on Kerry’s voting record on military issues by pointing out, “[Kerry] has a long history, particularly in the last decade, of not only voting to cut intelligence spending, but introducing bills to cut intelligence spending.”

Kerry immediately cried foul.

Predictably, Kerry played the patriotism card complaining he was a victim and that the Bush political team was challenging his patriotism by pointing out his voting record. So much so that he drafted a letter, handed copies out to the press and then sent it off to President George W. Bush challenging him to a debate on the Viet Nam War.

Huh?

Chambliss challenged neither Kerry’s Viet Nam war record, nor his patriotism. But that didn’t stop Kerry from releasing this statement from the letter, “As you well know, Vietnam was a very difficult and painful period in our nation's history, and the struggle for our veterans continues. So, it has been hard to believe that you would choose to reopen these wounds for your personal political gain. But, that is what you have chosen to do.” And then Kerry made this ridiculous challenge, “If you want to debate the Vietnam era and the impact of our experiences on our approaches to presidential leadership, I am prepared to do so.”

If this is the “bring it on” strategy, Kerry has severely miscalculated what will matter in the 2004 presidential election.

It was John F. Kerry brought Viet Nam into his candidacy in nearly every speech he has made. He travels with a group of Viet Nam era veterans that he calls his “band of brothers.” While that helped him to a victory in Iowa and in many continuing primary contests, it can only carry him so far. Kerry has likely made a horribly strategic error in running a retro campaign dating back over thirty years to the time that he was a skipper of a river patrol boat in the Viet Nam war in an attempt to prove his national security prowess. It now appears that Kerry believed that his Viet Nam era service would insulate him from any criticism of his historically poor voting record on defense and national security.

Memo to John F. Kerry, it won’t.

On the CBS Sunday morning talk show “Face the Nation” Republican National Committee (RNC) chairman Ed Gillespie made the GOP strategy clear when went out of his way to praise John Kerry’s war record telling the viewers that “John Kerry should be proud of his honorable [Viet Nam service].” He then said that Republicans would concentrate on his record since then. Gillespie went on to list a litany of weapons systems that Kerry had voted against including the Patriot Missile system, the Black Hawk helicopter, and the Stealth bomber. Gillespie then amplified Kerry’s vote against the first Gulf War. Expect more of the same from the GOP, praise of Kerry’s military service while concentrating on criticizing his record since then.

It’s hard to believe that John Kerry would be so unprepared for these questions on his record.

Kerry had stated ad nauseam that he was ready for any national security questions with a “bring it on” mantra that now appears to be nothing more than an applause line. But try as he might, he will not be able to run from this mantra by attempting to deflect legitimate criticism into complaints that his patriotism is under attack. America is at war, and the Kerry campaign would serve itself better to prepare answers, not excuses and victimization. The Bush campaign telegraphed their strategy to question John Kerry’s long congressional voting record, and Kerry invited it, stated that he was prepared for it by delivering his signature applause line at every stop on the stump. “Bring-----It----On.”

The invitation has been accepted. The Bush team is ready to “bring it.”

washingtondispatch.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (3642)2/23/2004 9:48:11 AM
From: JakeStrawRespond to of 81568
 
Kerry should be wary of dredging up past

If you own a computer or listen to talk radio or read the British or Australian papers, you'll know that John Kerry is currently beset by rumors of interns. By the time you read this, it may be that America's genteel broadsheets and network news shows will have overcome their squeamishness and tiptoed gingerly down the path blazed by Drudge and Fleet Street, or it may be that they decide to investigate it a bit longer, just to get chapter and verse nailed down, which means you may not get to read about it till, oh, midway through President Kerry's second term.

Now let me say that I've no idea whether there's anything to the alleged intern business but . . . what's the word Howard Dean uses when he's on NPR and he wants to air some conspiracy theory about whether Bush was tipped off in advance about 9/11? Ah, yes, ''interesting.'' It's an ''interesting'' story. And, if you think we should have concrete proof before we bring it up, then I take the line Wes Clark does when he's asked to substantiate the wild claim made at a Clark event about whether Bush is a ''deserter'' and Clark replies he has no proof Bush isn't a deserter. I've no proof Kerry isn't an adulterer.

Nonetheless, while I enjoy ''the politics of personal destruction'' as much as the next chap, I've no desire to fight the 2004 election on anything as quaintly anachronistic as an intern scandal. That's so last millennium. On the other hand, so is Kerry droning on about Vietnam at every campaign stop and traveling the country with his own personal VFW detail. This year more than ever, the hack politician's laziest platitude is true: ''This election is about the future.''

Unfortunately, most politicians who say ''this election is about the future'' haven't given it a moment's thought. Say what you like about us right-wing war mongers, but after Sept. 11 we abandoned our long-cherished theories of realpolitik -- find your local strongman and shovel millions of dollars at him -- as inadequate, and indeed part of the problem. Sentimental liberal internationalism -- everything has to be done through the U.N., no matter how stinkingly corrupt and ineffectual it is -- is just as inadequate to the challenges of the age. Yet Kerry, John Edwards, Howard Dean and the rest of the left cling to it like a security blanket. Ask them anything about foreign policy, and they sing like the Von Trapp children, ''We need to get the U.N. in there.'' As Sam Goldwyn said, ''I'm sick of the old cliches. Bring me some new cliches.''

And few people are so in need of some new cliches as the Democratic Party. That's why they've wound up running on the twin planks of where Kerry was in the late '60s and where George W. Bush wasn't in the early '70s. You could hardly ask for a neater precis of the atrophied boomer heart of the Dems than their decision to fight the 2004 election on the oldies station slogan of ''Where were you in '72?''

In 2002, the Dems had no ideas and they ran on biography: In Missouri, Jean Carnahan was the brave widow of the late governor; in Georgia, Max Cleland was a Vietnam veteran and triple amputee; in Minnesota, Walter Mondale was the lion of the '84 campaign and a friend of Paul Wellstone. In all three cases the public shrugged and voted Republican. These are serious times and they demand politicians rise to them.

Yet here we are two years later, and they're running on biography all over again. But this time their chosen biography is Vietnam, and for many Americans, and especially boomer Democrats, that's far more psychologically complicated. Look at Kerry's stump speech: ''We band of brothers,'' he says, indicating his fellow veterans. ''We're a little older, we're a little grayer, but we still know how to fight for this country.'' Thirty years ago, he came back from Vietnam and denounced his ''band of brothers'' as a gang of drug-fueled torturers, rapists and murderers.

These versions are not reconcilable. When he was palling around with Jane Fonda in the '70s, he hated the military. It wasn't just that he opposed the war but that he accused his ''band of brothers'' of a level of participation in war crimes and civilian atrocities unmatched by the Japanese, the Nazis and the Soviets. If he'd said, ''We band of brothers . . . We're a little older, we're a little grayer, but we still know how to get high, murder the gooks and rape their womenfolk,'' it would at least have been consistent with his congressional testimony.

So one John Kerry is a fake. Which is it? The Jane Fonda in pants of the early '70s? Or the Bob Hope USO tour Kerry of today? Running on biography is lame enough. Running on fake biography is pathetic.

Likewise, Max Cleland, the former Georgia senator turned cable show hit man for the Kerry campaign on the Bush National Guard ''scandal.'' He's untouchable because, as Terry McAuliffe likes to say, he's a ''triple amputee who left three limbs on the battlefield of Vietnam.''

As Ann Coulter pointed out in a merciless but entirely accurate column, it wasn't on the ''battlefield.'' It wasn't in combat. He was working on a radio relay station. He saw a grenade dropped by one of his colleagues and bent down to pick it up. It's impossible for most of us to imagine what that must be like -- to be flown home, with your body shattered, not because of some firefight, but because you made a stupid mistake. Once upon a time, Cleland loathed the Silver and Bronze Stars he'd been given: He was, in his words, ''no hero'' -- which is true. He was a beneficiary of the medal inflation that tends to accompany unpopular wars. But Cleland learned to stop hating himself to the point where he's happy to be passed off as a hero wounded in battle because that makes him a more valuable mascot to the campaign. Sad.

Next to these deceptions -- and self-deceptions -- what are Dems hoping to pin on Bush? Thanks to Kerry in his Hanoi Jane period, Vietnam was a disaster for America that gave the establishment a wholly irrational fear of almost every ramshackle Third World basket case on the planet. Look at what everyone from Arthur Schlesinger to Chris Matthews wrote about the ''unconquerable'' Afghans only two years ago. That defeatism was the Kerry legacy from the '70s: a terrified, Kerrified America. If he wants to fight Campaign 2004 on Vietnam, then, as he would say, bring it on.

suntimes.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (3642)2/23/2004 11:43:05 AM
From: American SpiritRead Replies (3) | Respond to of 81568
 
Bush-Cheney deliberately lied from the very beginning to get us into war unilaterally. They did not want the UN involved and it wasn't even about terrorism. The plans were laid for that invasion before 9-11 and they had to do with "strategic value" of Iraq. I expect all this will be PROVEN to the American people in the coming months as whistle-blowers come forward who witnessed the deceit.