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To: GST who wrote (124930)	2/23/2004 12:29:02 PM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Feruary 23 is the Russian army's birthday. It is also the the day in 1944 when the liquidation of the Chechenian state began. 459,486 people of Chechenia were declared to be traitors and treated as such. At least 20% died as a rsult of the deportation of these people to central Asia. No mention of this genocide was made at the recent conference on genocide held in Stockholm. Nor in the previous conferences. Nor by Kofi Annan. The Danish Prime Minister said that Chechenia should be included in research into the Holocaust and genocide on the occasion of the opening of the Danish Center for Research into the Holocaust and Genocide in 2000. Putin's spin doctors protested imediately and cancelled various bilateral contacts between Denmark and Russia. The US with its so-called war on terror has given carte blanche to the Russians vis á vis Chechenian. The 200,000 refugees left in 2000 could look forward to more killing. And Sig harps on 5000 Parisian deaths.

To: GST who wrote (124930)	2/23/2004 2:02:55 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

You can keep repeating ad nauseam that it makes no difference, no difference at all, to US security whether Saddam is destroyed or rules triumphant, whether Syria and all the other Arab dictatorships are afraid of our anger or rest confident that we are a paper tiger, whether the various AQ franchises have bases galore to chose from or keep getting kicked out of their bases and have to run and hide. You can keep repeating it as many times as you like. But it still doesn't make it true, except inside whatever fantasy land you inhabit.

To: GST who wrote (124930)	2/23/2004 3:18:16 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>> When American politicians send US citizens to their deaths for political reasons unrelated to national security, it should make the front page of every newspaper in the country -- and we should throw the bums out of office even if we can't say much in praise of the alternative.>>> It did make the headlines in block letters. And you are correct that the politicians did the dirty work. 296 House members and 77 Senators out of 100 voted yes, including Rep.Dick Gephart who helped write the war proposal. cnn.com Once every 4 to 6 years you can vote them out of office, so dont waste the chance -give it your best shot. Sig@thankyouralphnader.com

To: GST who wrote (124930)	2/23/2004 3:41:45 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

From Fox News: Zarqawi Bomb-Maker Killed in Iraq Monday, February 23, 2004 The top bomb-maker for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (search) has been killed in Fallujah, Fox News learned Monday. The bomb-making lieutenant, whose name wasn’t released, died in a gun battle at a terrorist safe house late last week, military sources told Fox. The military officer's death is significant because Al-Zarqawi is the man believed to have masterminded a number of recent attacks against the coalition in Iraq. Civil affairs soldiers were passing out election pamphlets in Fallujah, just west of Baghdad, when someone began shooting from a nearby house, sources told Fox. That’s when Task Force 121 (search), part of U.S. Special Forces, was called in. After a short gun battle, two people were killed — including the Zarqawi lieutenant and one of the soldiers passing out the brochures. A handful of others were captured. Inside the terrorist safe house, sources said the military found a passport belonging to Zarqawi, fake identification and other information. In another weekend raid — this one initiated by American troops over the weekend in Baghdad — a detailed map of U.S. headquarters turned up in the Iraqi capital, military sources told Fox. The sources said a terrorist cell is believed to have been using the map of Camp Victory (search) to plan an attack there. Sources told Fox they suspect an Iraqi contractor is helping terrorists, and they've launched a full investigation into who the culprit might be. Meanwhile, defense officials say that a copy of a letter believed to have been penned by Zarqawi has turned up in Saudi Arabia. The copy was discovered with Saudi financiers whom Defense officials believe were being solicited to fund terrorist operations inside Iraq, sources told Fox. The U.S. military recently intercepted the original from Al Qaeda member Hassan Ghul (search). The letter is significant because of its message to the terrorist network's command structure in the mountains along the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan calling for help in Iraq. Defense officials told Fox they are convinced that there is a communications link — a sharing of tactics — among Al Qaeda-tied groups in Iraq and Afghanistan. In another find that could prove the Afghanistan-Iraq connection, three Afghans were arrested over the weekend as they entered Iraq from Turkey carrying tens of thousands in U.S. dollars and large quantities of Iranian currency, military sources told Fox. American soldiers have recovered millions of U.S. dollars in recent weeks inside Iraq — crisp, new bills that officials believe came directly from an unidentified bank. Fox News' Bret Baier, Catherine Donaldson-Evans and Geraldo Rivera contributed to this report. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,112234,00.html Zarqawi's been operating in Iraq for several years. The safe house just destroyed was in Fallujah, a Ba'athist stronghold in the Sunni Triangle. Go on GST, explain to us again how Al Qaeda and Iraq are completely unrelated and always were.