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To: stockman_scott who wrote (124950)	2/23/2004 10:45:10 PM
From: NightOwl	Respond to of 281500

I guess it's a good thing we don't have to fight another WW. Sounds like we'd get our hineys kicked into next year. 0\|0

To: stockman_scott who wrote (124950)	2/24/2004 12:34:24 AM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 281500

Hi stockman_scott; Great article by Gary North. Gary North is a gun totin', God lovin', gold buyin' right wing radical, not terribly dissimilar from me. Where we differ is probably in religion, as he's a Mormon, I'm not. Bush, on the other hand, is a Moron, but you knew that. So North has a more religious overtone to what he expects the future history of the Middle East to entail. Of course, all of the troops will not depart. Reserves are being called up to serve as car-bomb fodder. But, officially, the United States will become an invited observer, probably sharing authority with the United Nations. (This assumes – safely – that no elections will be held prior to June 30; otherwise, the United States will be asked to leave on July 1.). ... Rush Limbaugh will not remind his listeners of this embarrassing fact. He will not sing the praises of "those courageous and dedicated representatives of the United Nations, the world's legitimizer of last resort." He will, instead, do his Winston Smith imitation, for which he is deservedly famous. Americans thoroughly enjoy seeing American troops bang heads around the world, but only on these assumptions: (1) the victims can't or won't fight back; (2) the military's adventures do not visibly tap into Americans' pocketbooks; (3) our troops can pull out at any time without visibly putting their tails between their legs. When there are helicopter retreats from Saigon, American voters react in a hostile fashion. Americans like war, but they like it cheap. ... His enduring legacy will be the conversion of "weapons of mass destruction" into the equivalent of Neville Chamberlain's "peace in our time." The phrase will become a laughingstock. ... Our troops won a minor battle in March, 2003. That battle was called a war, but it was only one battle in a very long war. This war has been going on for about 14 centuries. The war's main theater today is the Middle East. When it becomes apparent to America's enemies, which are also the State of Israel's enemies, that the United States did not win its phase of the ancient war, they will be emboldened. Winning the battle in the Middle East requires permanent military occupation by the victors. American voters will not pay the price required. ... Americans have no intention of becoming surrogate Israelis. The State of Israel is now permanently on the defensive. When Israeli troops fled from Lebanon – "fled" is the correct word to describe their literally overnight departure – it was clear who is winning the war. This war is deeply religious. This makes it a demographic war. Israelis are losing this war in the bedroom. It is only a matter of time, which is why they are building the wall: a very large prophylactic to deal with the effects of smaller prophylactics. But the comparative birth rates inside the wall's confines tell the story. The Arabs are winning. #reply-19840543 Gary North was against the war going in, another one of those easily deluded fools who thought that Iraqi civilians would shoot back, and that there was obviously substantial support for Hussein: Gary North Gun Ownership in Iraq Gary North, March 7, 2003 I have twice seen the same film clip on CBS news: an Iraqi citizen buying what looks like a machine gun (Kalashnikov), and another citizen trying out a semi-automatic pistol’s slide action. Both times, the voice-over warned of Iraqis preparing to defend themselves. Nobody mentions the obvious: unless the film clip was staged, Saddam Hussein lets Iraqis buy guns and ammo. This testifies against the theory that Saddam fears an organized uprising. If he fears assassination – his supposed use of look-alikes in public – he doesn’t fear it enough to impose complete gun control. #reply-19413512 -- Carl

To: stockman_scott who wrote (124950)	2/24/2004 7:17:14 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Respond to of 281500

>> ... The Israelis could launch a pre-emptory nuclear strike against Mecca and Medina. The primary symbols of Islam would be reduced to radioactive dust. If the Israelis used a cobalt-tipped bomb, Muslims could not visit Mecca for millennia....<< Thinking along the lines, the same thing would then happen to Ghawar oil fields and its younger brothers - I'd throw in Q8 & Iraq (Iran?) to stay on the safe side. I already feel better - MAD days are back again. dj