To: hmaly who wrote (183466 ) 2/24/2004 12:18:37 AM From: American Spirit Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575167 Now use your brain and THINK. It's 1968. You're a courageous young man sent to Nam and you're in command. You're sent up the Mekong leading a boat with two 60 mm machineguns. Your orders make no sense. The VC keep ambushing you and killing your guys. You finally decide, F this. I'm going to go on the offensive and wipe those VC out. The orders don't make any sense anyway because every time you win a victory you come back the next day and the VC are back in the same place. So no more pussy-footing around. Every time we see VC suspects you now go gung-ho, charge and take them out. You start winning, you start pacifying things, you save your mens' lives by being more aggressive. But after six months of that, many friends killed, dozens of VC (some of them just kids blown apart) and three wounds you realize this is madness, this whole thing makes no sense, it's time to go home. So on your way home you realize, you cannot let more of our guys go through that, get killed for no apparent plan or reason. This whole war is based on lies and piss poor callous planning from above. Ths whole war is a scam and the soldiers are the ones paying the price. The price to win is to go mad and become homicidal. (Rambo was insane after all) Because you cannot tell friend from foe. You just have to take everyone out who doesn't obey orders. It's madness and it's not even working. This has to end. So you make a commitment to go back and fight to end the war, or at least to wake people up to what's really happening. You have a chest full of medals, but what do they mean? They are for killing people, many people. They aren't badges of honor so much as badges given to you for doing some very questionable things following very questionable orders or for just saving your guys. The only thing pure was saving your brothers in arms. The only pure thing was fighting together to stay alive and not taking any BS, earning some respect. As for the killing, you don't like to talk about it and don't for 30 years. Many of JK's friends did not return. Tens of thousands of Americans died in Nam. Hundreds of thousands of others died. We drained our national treasury to fight that war. And for what? Halliburton and Bectel? Defense contractors? What was the reason and what was the plan? If you read The Pentagon papera you realize the planners were all either wrong, liars or insane. You realize it was all based on a way-out theory by chickenhawks in think tanks. Just like the neocons running things now. God bless the troops and the vets and down with the Cheney types who avoided war but don't mind starting new ones just because it suits their special interests. Up to John Kerry because he had amazing courage in combat and also amazing courage to try and change things when he got home. And he did. He saved a lot more lives protesting the war than he did in combat. That's why so many vets are willing to back him 100% and fight to defend him against all the phony shickenhsek attacks.