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To: Jamey who wrote (36568)2/24/2004 6:40:48 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
I do not believe the pre-trib drivel. It's a perfect trap to snare the Church in a deception that leaves it unprepared for what's coming. There is a book, The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church by Marvin Rosenthal. I've read it. He came to the same conclusion as me but by different reasoning. It won't be Jews being slaughtered in the end by the beast, it will be the saints who refuse the mark of the beast. The part the Jews and Israel play in the last days has been twisted. That works in the overall deception of the church.



To: Jamey who wrote (36568)3/13/2004 2:52:56 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Beuatifully done ...posting that link to Lew Rockwell .

Though sadly Jesus lived in a time when all seemed so desperate and destruction of all wickedness was taken for granted by the god fearing apocalyptic Hebrew fanatics of his day ....and yes for all practicle purposes the Romans did a painfully exacting and thorough job of wrecking virtual anhililation of Palestine and Jerusalem ...and yet it said in the Bible at some place ....

----> Earth Abides .
(if we stop being so fruitful and multiplying !)

Though many of the wise don't give us as a species much time for our own survival on this planet , I tend to be an optimist , and do see at least 500mil yrs more or less of our occupation and stay here using reason and sustainable renewable resources and our innate cleverness at survival and finally achieving some universal peace without "chosen ones".

so 70yrs ad ,
or 2004....
or 200,004 yrs later,

makes very little difference to what is yet to come...

Surfing is fun and unites one with the timeless elements
of God , ever thought of taking that up?

;-)