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To: TimF who wrote (183567)	2/25/2004 7:18:23 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573988

Tim, re: If you try to do it (stop importing oil or other energy sources) quickly now you will throw the economy in to serious recession whether or not the price of oil actually goes to $60. If you price of oil goes up gradually then the normal market mechanisms will allow for replacement of oil or reduced energy use with the minimum possible economic disruption. If the price zooms up to $60 per barrel then we will have a severe recession whether or not we have increased our efforts at energy conservation before the price increase. The whole point is to "gradually" reduce the use (and subsequent price) of oil starting NOW. For both economic and political reasons. There is no leadership pushing that agenda, and currently we are consuming ~25% of the worlds oil production. Solar, fluorescent lighting, hybrid/electric cars are a few solutions that should be politically promoted. The change can only be incremental and gradual; you can't do the whole country in 5 years, or even 10 years. Coincedentally, there is an article on page B1 of today's Wall Street Journal titled "People Favor Solar Power - But Not in Their Neighborhood". It talks a lot about homeowners associations opposing solar panels, even though in many states they can't ban them (FL is one). Also of interest is that panel manufacturers are starting to make the panels to look a bit like tiles for tile roofs, and that they are making them in colors to match roofs. Solar production from all sources in the US has increased 10 fold since 1993 to about 300 megawatts, enough to power about 300,000 homes. A drop in the bucket. But if you increased that another 10 fold, you are starting to have an significant impact. Another ten fold on top and you have a major part of the solution. I really never thought much about solar before, but as a byproduct of this discussion I'm going to find the time to research and maybe go with it myself. I'll let you know. John

To: TimF who wrote (183567)	2/25/2004 12:10:05 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573988

If you try to do it (stop importing oil or other energy sources) quickly now you will throw the economy in to serious recession whether or not the price of oil actually goes to $60. If you price of oil goes up gradually then the normal market mechanisms will allow for replacement of oil or reduced energy use with the minimum possible economic disruption. If the price zooms up to $60 per barrel then we will have a severe recession whether or not we have increased our efforts at energy conservation before the price increase. If the price of oil goes up to $60 per barrel, our standard of living will deteriorate severely whether or not the market accommodates the increase with minimal disruption. I am suggesting that we do the only smart thing......which is to wean ourselves of our oil dependency over time. Unfortunately, this administration doesn't believe in doing what's good for the country. ted