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To: Neeka who wrote (31935)2/27/2004 3:22:47 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793618
 
I don't know what is so "Interesting" about that?

What is interesting is that your fear is not proportional to your risk. Any approach to fear other than risk assessment is interesting to me because it's, well, odd.

I consider my level of risk high since I currently live in an area that has been targeted before and there are several military bases nearby

I'm near ground zero, too, right next to the mother of all military bases, and there are huge Arab and Muslim communities. This is Friday, the day I can hardly get out of my neighborhood at lunchtime due to mosque traffic. I recognize that my level of risk is higher than that of someone who lives in Sedona or Squaw Valley. That does not make it high, though. Even where I live, my bathtub is a greater threat to life and limb, despite its placidity.

I also consider the threat to our national economy very disturbing

It is disturbing. But as I said earlier, the greatest risk to our economy is fear of terrorists, not the terrorists themselves. What do you think is the worst case scenario? I see loss of productivity from diversion of resources to security and a stock market crash due to investor fears as the worst case scenario. Both of those are more a function of our fear than what the terrorists can do. Perhaps I'm not being creative enough and am missing something. What do you think is the worst case scenario economy-wise at the hands of terrorists?

The level of hostility is extremely high imo. The motivation and modus operandi is like nothing I've ever seen. I feel compelled to support any effort to defend against this enemy.

I completely agree. One of the most important things we can do to defend ourselves is to put our fears in perspective so that we can more readiy respond intelligently.



To: Neeka who wrote (31935)2/27/2004 5:08:19 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793618
 
This hooey about bathtubs, car accidents, the flu, etc.,
has no real comparison to the current threat from
terrorists. The harm brought about by these things are
incidental or accidental. We have taken steps to mitigate
& limit the harm for each of them. As noted already, some
harm is beyond control as the costs to eradicate the harm
far outweigh the benefits.

How many of the dangers they posed resulted in the
slaughter of 3,000+ people & many hundreds of billions in
economic damage in the matter of a few hours?

All of the points you, Nadine, LB & others have made
correctly point out that terrorists are obviously a unique
threat consciously made by demented humans totally focused
on our demise physically & economically. The harm brought
about by terrorists is intentional. That they are fanatics
willing to give their lives committing horrific atrocities
makes them very dangerous to free & open societies.

In one terrible incident (or a series of coordinated
attacks) terrorists could destroy a major city (or many
thousands in multiple sites) with a horrific slaughter of
innocent people & dramatically impact economies globally.

IMO, to bury our heads in the sand & pretend the threat
won't get worse will play right into the terrorists hands.
A limited or so called "proportional" response will be
seen as weakness & not result in deterring enough of them.

The likelihood of any of their boogeymen to achieve the
same outcome would be for a pandemic to occur in spite of
our global attempts to monitor & prevent them.

FWIW, you will never change kholt's mind. Even when her
original POV is shown to be wrong or lacking merit, she
just nuances, massages & obfuscates her position until you
give up because you no longer understand what she is
talking about, or her position has significantly morphed
into something she can claim was correct all along. JMHO