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To: PartyTime who wrote (4364)	2/27/2004 6:26:17 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Yes, let's leave personal attacks out of this. They don't prove anything and are just signs of a weak argument.

To: PartyTime who wrote (4364)	2/27/2004 6:32:08 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

Oh. Well, your basic premise is fatally flawed and frankly I don't give a tinker's **** even if that weren't the case. Frankly, I'm not Jane Fonda material and never intend to be. I would have thought the collapse of the USSR and the conversion of Mao's People's Paradise to capitalism would have taught you guys something, but apparently I was seriously overestimating the intelligence and/or honesty of the left.

To: PartyTime who wrote (4364)	2/27/2004 7:09:48 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 173976

GENEXT: The Real Kerry Students once turned off by the Massachusetts senator now gush about his electability. But Bush is still the man to beat Jay L. Clendenin / Polaris for Newsweek Hypocrisy watch: Gorsche bristles when Kerry rails against privilege By Ryan Gorsche NewsweekFeb. 9 issue - The crumbling of Howard Dean's candidacy is bittersweet for college conservatives. Sure, we're glad voters were wise enough to understand what we've been saying all along: Dean is unfit for the presidency. Still, it's unlikely Republicans now will have the pleasure of seeing President George W. Bush face an opponent so easily beaten (a remarkable surge in the polls by Dennis Kucinich notwithstanding). Some young Republicans are even wondering whether Dean's demise and the rise of John Kerry will mean serious trouble for Bush in November. advertisement Of course, Kerry hasn't crossed the finish line yet. But here at Dartmouth, as in the rest of the country, he's the Democrat to beat. Many of my classmates—once dyed-in-the-(organically grown) wool Deaniacs—are now supporting the Massachusetts liberal. Dean, they say, still has their hearts, but Kerry has their votes. This pragmatism is a new phenomenon: Kerry's insider status, anchorman coif and penchant for plugging his Vietnam resume initially turned off Dartmouth students who liked Dean's outsider credentials. Now with electability the mantra of the moment, they're learning to love the candidate. The NEWSWEEK Poll showing Kerry running neck-and-neck in a hypothetical matchup with President Bush makes most of the "anybody but Bush" crowd around here giddy for a Kerry nomination. Will college students like what they see once they get to know Kerry? We college conservatives certainly don't. Kerry's rants against the economy of privilege make us cringe. This is a man who, according to financial-disclosure forms, ranks among the wealthiest men in the Senate and has his own special-interest group in ketchup- heiress wife Teresa Heinz Kerry. Don't be mistaken: I'm not a young Republican taking a surprising stand against wealth. But college conservatives are lectured about our "privilege" every day. It's particularly grating to hear that criticism coming from a man who enjoyed trips on JFK's yacht as a boy. Kerry claims that "Democrats should stand up for everyday Americans who work hard, hope for the future and face extraordinary challenges every day." One question: discounting union bosses, does John Kerry associate with any everyday Americans? Still, as obviously disingenuous as Kerry may be, I'm not optimistic that college students will see through his spin. Both the senator and the average student suffer from the same problem: peer pressure. John Kerry voted for the Patriot Act, regime change in Iraq and the No Child Left Behind Act—a laundry list of issues liberals love to hate. But when Dean started shaking things up in the Democratic Party, Kerry started singing a different tune. Suddenly everything he voted for was, like, so last year. Bush-hating college students seem prepared to forget Kerry's Bush-lite record, too. At least we college conservatives remember the old Kerry. If he wins the nomination, he's going to have to tell us which John Kerry is the real John Kerry. My money says either one can be beaten by George W. Bush msnbc.msn.com Hey, you said you wanted something on point. OK.