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To: elmatador who wrote (46771)	2/28/2004 5:58:26 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

<All those Chinese coming there end up cheaper for the tax payer than to make indigenous babies!!!> You are right. They are much cheaper, are ready to produce economic output, are better quality [in economic respects - the main child production lines are running low quality output, many of whom end up in social welfare or prison]. But that doesn't mean it's good to just import any Chinese [or Koreans, Afghans, Indians, Sri Lankans, Taiwanese, Hong Kongese, British, Americans, Brazilians etc]. What's needed is to stop the low quality indigenous production line, which only runs because of the taxpayer subsidy AND stop the low quality immigration by selling the citizenships to high value imports. Merely giving away my hard work is quite annoying. I worked building water supply dams, power stations and stuff and now find newbies just fly in hoik on the pavement, turn on the lights and taps and use my water and electricity, roads and hospitals, universities, and stuff which I worked at and paid for. Then there's not enough to go around so I have to pay again for more of what I've already built, which there was enough of for the people who were already here. I don't just invite immigrants to come and live in my house, use my water and electricity, living room and kitchen without payment. I see no reason to do it for the country, which is just a bigger house which we all share in NZ. Mqurice

To: elmatador who wrote (46771)	2/28/2004 6:06:40 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Re: All those Chinese coming there end up cheaper for the tax payer than to make indigenous babies!!! Ridiculous. It's high time that we look on children as long term liabilities and not as assets. Each baby born today is going to destroy the planet. That is documented fact. Human babies are net liabilities to the existence of the planet. We are a weed species who have overgrown our natural balance with the planet. Unless we come to grips with this fact, we are doomed to a future of endless war, endless conflict and endless frustration. The first population who need to be eliminated are the Evangelical Christians. They've grown from 2 MM in 1940 to 500 MM today. This is the definition of a cancer. See: Message 19855981 Necklace time, temps de collier, encore