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To: PROLIFE who wrote (546600)2/29/2004 5:00:09 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Respond to of 769670
 
<Thou shalt not kill....kill what? turnip greens? chickens? deer?>

Cute. Very imaginative, and UnLiteral.

You prove my point, with your selective quotes, and your creative interpretation and elaboration of those quotes. All Christ said was "don't be sexually immoral". Period. End of Statement. (btw, what passage is that?)

You elaborate and extend this into: Homosexuality is evil (and you Believe, with 100% certainty, that your interpretation is exactly what God means).

It is just as reasonable, to Believe that:

1. The Old Testament (whose Laws have been superceded by the New) bans having anal sex with sacred prostitutes (male or female) in the Goddess Astarte's temples. I have no problem with a Constitutional Amendment banning that.

2. The New Testament instructs: to love others as you would like to be loved. So, this bans sex which is not consensual and loving, or which causes harm. And that's all it bans. Just to be clear: harm means actual tangible harm, like parents abandoning unwanted children, or spreading diseases. You are not harmed, just because you are offended by what someone else is doing in the privacy of their own bedroom. No, you aren't, no matter how angry it makes you feel.

<How about the man that is going to tie you up, rape you wife and slit your son's throat while you watch...would you try to kill him before he did that to your family?>

I forgot to add that to the list of exceptions and limitations the UnLiteralists (like you) believe.

I will admit that I am not a good enough Christian, and I don't love all my enemies, and I won't always turn the other cheek. That's ideal, that's literally what Christ said to do, but "the flesh is weak". At least mine is. So, I won't criticize anyone who does "an eye for an eye".

But I will condemn those who not only forget "love your enemies", but also forget "eye for eye, life for life", and worship the Old Testament Tribal War God.

For example, no rational Enlightenment person can worship this:

God uses Stalin's methods:
25Moses knew that the people were out of control and that it was Aaron's fault. And now they had made fools of themselves in front of their enemies. 26So Moses stood at the gate of the camp and shouted, " Everyone who is on the LORD's side come over here!"
Then the men of the Levi tribe gathered around Moses, 27and he said to them, " The LORD God of Israel commands you to strap on your swords and go through the camp, killing your relatives, your friends, and your neighbors."
28The men of the Levi tribe followed his orders, and that day they killed about three thousand men. 29Moses said to them, " You obeyed the LORD and did what was right, and so you will serve as his priests for the people of Israel. It was hard for you to kill your own sons and brothers, but the LORD has blessed you and made you his priests today." Exodus 32:25-29

Or this:

Ethnic cleansing:
You led the people of Israel out of Egypt. Now get ready to lead them to the land I promised their ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. It is a land rich with milk and honey, and I will send an angel to force out those people who live there--the Canaanites, the Amorites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. Exodus 33:1-3

Or this:

Greed is a capital offense:
Some time later the LORD sent a strong wind that blew quails in from the sea until Israel's camp was completely surrounded with birds, piled up about three feet high for miles in every direction. The people picked up quails for two days--each person filled at least fifty bushels. Then they spread them out to dry. But before the meat could be eaten, the LORD became angry and sent a disease through the camp. After they had buried the people who had been so greedy for meat, they called the place " Graves for the Greedy." Numbers 11:31-34

I'll bet you don't really advocate following those passages, literally. Neither do I.