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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: briskit who wrote (16451)	2/29/2004 8:13:11 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

We do know that there is a "Gospel" over in India of refraining from killing animals , non-injury , or the eating of meat ...not to say that sacrifices weren't made , but not at all close on the scale they were performed by the romans , jews (by the 100's of 1000's ) , and this basic tenant "gospel" of Hinduism is contained in just one word: Ahimsa... It is a very old idea , older than moses ...with nuances of wisdom on the highest of planes .ot the superstitous "sacred cow" stereotype , pushed by Catholic and Christian preachers & proselytizers . sivanandadlshq.org Does this concept , tenant , universal observance or "gospel" for the Hindu ...does it need to be proven to have come from any one particular saint or Buddha or Christ from out of that area ? Does the idea of non-injury and refraining from the beastialty in ourselves and the awakening from that kind of behavior have to be shown to have any specific historical date or persons teaching it ? Or could it be , it may be just a very good idea really , to aspire for, of one's own realization ? With or without the messiah? It is unthinkable for a Hindu to have to react to any challenge to this idea , or ever feel the need to make up explanations validating its historical references . The idea itself as a concept is self evident to one that has reached a higher level of sensitivity and compassion....whether the idea was promoted by myths and legends or not . The fact remains that the idea is sound and balanced , and reflects the truth that men must learn to conduct themselves to other living creature with respect and gentleness , and not abuse them . And seek this wisdom , in a cave on a mountaintop, or wherever. The basic tenant of Hinduism far precedes anything to do with the sermon on the mount , in fact predates by centuries any of the numbers of sermons atributed to the Buddha circa 500bc . Do I need to prove it to you or anyone else ? The idea is absurd ...yet why Christians need to validate their basic tenants , over and over again leaves it very much suspect that they are defending a myth and a story , and afraid of the truth of it .And if it were only that , just a story ...would it make the slightest difference at all , as to the validity of the teaching itself , which must be lived, traveled by and experienced to have any meaning at all , in any case . Christians have to make apologies by the scores in every century , because they are too always busying themselves with trying to invade , undermine and convert others from their own chosen paths , which are not disimilar to the Christian way . Only nuances of differences really, but one religion was from the first far far more tolerant than the other ...and that was the older belief. If the Christian soldier was not so active in pursuing the destruction of other faiths , he would not have to apologize so much ... would he ? ;-)

To: briskit who wrote (16451)	2/29/2004 10:08:54 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"This should be interesting. I must say I am quite surprised at what you are suggesting as counter-evidence up to this point. UFO related gospels? I wonder what historical authenticity we should ascribe to this idea, and how to substantiate it. I am surprised from my initial readings that you are sceptical about the historical authenticity of gospel literature, but prefer to believe in the authenticity of this kind of work." I am afraid there is a misunderstanding. The site intended to show a (misplaced) basis for certain gospel assertions. We are not disputing the historicity of gospel writings; we are relating them to other historical documents. The point is that the gospel writings depend from prior material rather than from historical fact. That anyone with any semblance of an open mind could be confused on this account beggars belief. Especially when it is considered that history is ABSOLUTELT SILENT on these "events". Occam's razor comes into play here. Nobody who knew Jesus wrote about Jesus...because Jesus is a composite invention. And why would a true seeker of truth choose Jesus over Mohammed...or over a thousand other myths? WHY? Just because of your parents and your culture or the happenstance of birth and erudition?