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To: elmatador who wrote (46859)	3/2/2004 12:38:10 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

elmatador, <<<There are a lot of useless immigrants seeking only the easy goodies governments lavish on their citizens. This causes a backlash against immigrants who are seen - as MQ points- as comnpeting with the locals for the goodies delivered to the locals.>>> That has to be the exception. I can't imagine immigrants crossing borders, trekking a long way, so they can wait in a hospital emergency room to get free treatment. Or, enter a country just so the kids could get a free public education. I just have not seen any of this (people getting something for nothing). But I do see a lot of Mexicans working in the kitchens of restaurants in the big cities of the US. and it is not just New York City, but Chicago, everywhere in California, and just about every big city in America. Without these workers, a lot of businesses in the US could not function. It is amazing how these workers can work 12 hour days, 7 days a week at minimum wage and still save enough money to send home to Mexico. My sense is that these workers are a huge net plus to the US economy. I don't see them competing with anyone who really wants to work. I know there are a lot of resentment against these people, but I think most of it is unhealthy emotions. Mary

To: elmatador who wrote (46859)	3/2/2004 2:10:11 PM
From: RealMuLan	Respond to of 74559

>>Just look what happen when Bush blocked foreigners and HB-1 is being curtailed: Jobs are being outsourced. << Elmat, as a matter of fact for 2003 Fed. Fiscal year, the US H-1B quota (raised number) hadn't even been filled while the outsourcing running wild. And for this current Fiscal year (2004), H-1B quota (60,000 regular)is estimated to be filled early of this month (there are still nearly 7 months left until the end Sep. for this Fiscal) while the outsourcing continued same as last year. So there isn't much relationship bet. outsourcing and H-1B number. As for organized "mass migration", I agree it will happen. By the time baby boomers retiring in waves, there would be a huge shortage for nursing aids, RN, LPN... in developed countries. So they have no choice but using organized immigration labor from developing countries, as much as MQ-type of "wanting-to-maintain-status-quo", anti-immigration guys are whining<g>