Amy Re..."Our oil policy, runs counter to our support of Israel, if anything."
I agree. But not everyone sees it this way. Glad you do.
I went back, and reread your post. It seems I misinterpreted what you are saying. Nonetheless, I don't think most people think our support of Israel has anything to with our oil policy. Most see this small nation besieged by terrorists, and don't want to see us be responsible for a bloodbath, should we withdraw our support. I think most people believe we get oil from the Arab states, and most arab states oppose Israel.
RE: "Im beginning to think you are on drugs"
No need to be attacking here. I never attack you.
I was responding to your statement, that the people of the US don't care about the safety of the people of Israel, just the oil. Which is an absurd statement. The US would have dropped our support for Israel many yrs ago, if that were true. You might be thinking of Ted, Al, etc, who favor the palestinian cause, and favor terrorism, to achieve statehood. I don't, nor do I believe most people care only about oil, and not the safety of the Israeli people. The simple fact is most care about both.
On this point, would tend to disagree with you. I tend to believe what the hightech folks in Israeli say, over what a USA policemaker might say, when it comes to matters of Israel.
Beleive me, you aren't the first one to blame the US policy for everything that is wrong in this world. The simple truth is, without getting rid of the terrorists organizations, in palestine, there won't be any appreciable investment in palestine. The palestinian people have got to want it first, and do what it takes to generate a stable environment.
I prefer to believe what my contacts in Israeli said - they said the people engaged in terrorism were the unemployed. In fact, they could point to the area and one could even see them. However, fast forward a couple of years, where now there is so much violence, that at this point, they aren't sure how the problem is going to be fixed
Every country in the world has unemployed. That doesn't give them the right to blow up innocent women and children. In order to get them employed,according to US standards, you need to restructure their society, to capitalism and democracy. There isn't a hint of that happening in Palestine. And there is no infrastructure, to let their products get to market. So throwing money into Palestine would be a waste, at this time.
What investors do is invest in Israel and then the Palestinians go to work in Israel. Apparently, the factory workers in Israel tend to be Palestinians -- it's a two-tiered system (that part isn't good, and should be fixed), but at least it's a venue for unemployed people to at least get some job. Companies like V/S get their cotton from Israel, probably the factory workers are Palestinians.
Palestine needs their own infrastructure,investment, factories, and jobs. Obs in Israel aren't a good substitute.
RE: "Get rid of the violence first, then there is hope, for the jobs."
But they aren't getting rid of the violence, which is what the comment "dipping them in oil" was precisely about, where the country is being piecewise attacked (where they have no hope for jobs) without any goal of overtaking the country to rebuild it into something better, or without any goal of addressing underlining issues (settlements, unemployment). At least with Germany, the USA rebuilt it from scratch and that gave Germans hope for jobs.
There is big difference between Germany 60 yrs ago, and Palestine. Germany was devastated after WWII, and needed our help to survive. Plus Germany didn't want to succomb to the Russians. So the Germans, of necessity had to cooperate with the occupation. That is the opposite of what exists in Palestine, where they still hope to defeat Israel, and run the Jews into the sea. Plus the palestinians get paid, by the other arab states to oppose Israel, and thereby US aid.
People don't take blood money, when there are better sources of income, such as jobs. Statistically, only desperate people do desperate things.
The palestinians hope to run the Jews out, so they would own the land, and have the jobs, the current Israelis have. Yes the palestinians are desperate, but they keep on clinging to the hope, they will prevail, rather than join the state of Israel, side by side. Their hope is that the arabs use oil as a weapon will dislodge Israel. So far the US has been able to counter those plans. |
