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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (7461)	3/3/2004 8:20:06 AM
From: rrufff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Obviously, your stretch of "cut and paste" with errata shows that you are deeply frustrated in not reaching an audience. Aside from a similarly frustrated poster in Europe, your posts really seem to be sloughed aside for what they are, attempts at deflection. You somehow wish to post that I am anti-Arab or that I minimize the tragedy of the Gypsies. Neither is true. The Gypsy holocaust, as the Armenian holocaust, the Cambodian holocaust, etc., are all terrible crimes and I would be happy with museums for each and every one. This is not a competition but a complementary base from which all humanity must know over and over that racist bigoted scum should be exposed and that this should never again happen. As for Arabs, I only wish that they could live in peace. They have money, power, land, oil, etc., and yet their leaders have focused on hatred of the West to keep their power over their people. There are few democracies or anything even close in the Arab world. They use religion to focus hatred and take free expression from their subjects. Are there exceptions? Of course. Are there horrors in every religion? Of course. Are there despotic "leaders" who attempt to use religion in Christianity or Judiasm? Of course. All this should be exposed. However, there is a difference in the scope of hatred and the use of religion. Right wing fundamentalists are a perceived danger in the US. Extreme orthodoxy is a perceived threat to Israel's existence, particularly if there is ever peace with Israel's neighbors. In both cases, democratic forces are at work, exposing and countering this religous fanaticism. In my opinion, the move towards Kerry reflects a move away from religious beliefs that lead to absurd positions on gay marriage amendments, privacy, radio obscenity, abortion, stem-cell research, etc. Bush can continue to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory by pandering to this religious fanaticism. In Israel, most opinion polls and electoral history have shown support for moderate parties. The Orthodox have been able to cling to a power base in an environment of fear and terror. Without the daily threats to its existence, there is no doubt that Israel would be a beacon of democratic and liberal values, bringing inventions in thought, economics and development to the world and to its neighbors. Most in both nations do not blindly defend. Every nation has faults. What most of your "readers" abhor is your constant hate-filled posts, looking for scapegoats for your mindless existence. There are others who post ad nauseum merely to show a glimmer of an IQ, who answer each and every line, with an attempt to show a mental superiority. Most who read these boards laugh at the futility of this self-indulgence. Most who read these boards know that it is absurd to compare the Nazis to Bush or to Israel. Most would know that it is absurd to compare Clinton to the Marquise de Sade. Most know it is absurd to claim that Bush, Mossad, Jewish midgets, the French, the Russians did 9/11. Yet, your attempt to reach an "audience" will fail as will the attempt of another to attain some measure of being Madame Superiore and the attempt by another to create a Duranged reality. So I repeat in very basic terms - For almost 7 months, I have asked you simple questions. Any human being with an ounce (gram?) of morality would find it very easy to answer. I will repeat so that everyone knows that type of person who hides from these questions. I guess the real question is whether or not you feel Hitler was right in retrospect with his beliefs and how he implemented them. Hitler had the power to do what he believed in, unlike most racist bigoted scum. Should Hitler have been stopped? Did he go far enough? I look forward to your frank answers.