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To: American Spirit who wrote (4482)	3/3/2004 12:08:50 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 90947

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To: American Spirit who wrote (4482)	3/3/2004 7:36:04 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

I showed the Sudan offer is already in the encyclopedia. Here's a Washington Post article on it: library.cornell.edu The government of Sudan, employing a back channel direct from its president to the Central Intelligence Agency, offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in Saudi custody, according to officials and former officials in all three countries. The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer in secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at a Rosslyn hotel on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort 10 weeks later. Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept bin Laden, and lacking a case to indict him in U.S. courts at the time, the Clinton administration finally gave up on the capture. Here's a LA Times article: infowars.com A news release on the subject by the European-Sudanese Public Affairs Council: sudan.net In December 2001, 'Vanity Fair' published a devastating expose of the Clinton Administration's mishandling of repeated offers by the Sudanese government, some dating back to 1996, to provide Washington intelligence on terrorism - particularly with regard to the al-Qaeda terrorist network.(1) Part of what was offered to the Clinton Administration were several hundred Sudanese files on al-Qaeda and its members.(2) The Administration also passed up the opportunity of interrogating two al- Qaeda members who had clearly been involved in the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in east Africa. In keeping with its very questionable Sudan policy (3), the Clinton Administration rejected all of Sudan's repeated offers. The implications of this studied indifference are clear. As 'Vanity Fair' stated: "September 11 might have been prevented if the U.S. had accepted Sudan's offers to share its intelligence files on Osama bin Laden and the growing al-Qaeda files." It had also earlier been revealed that in addition to offering the Clinton Administration intelligence on al-Qaeda, the Sudanese government had in 1996 also offered to extradite Osama bin-Laden - just as Khartoum had extradited the international terrorism known as "Carlos the Jackal" to France.(4) This offer was also rejected by the Clinton Administration. ... A Newsday article: www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ ny-warsuda02.story?coll=ny-top%252 You don't like this becauze Kerry has said he'd go back to the law enforcement model (i.e. like the Clinton adm.) for dealing with terrorism. If Kerry is elected, the terrorists and tyrants of the world will breathe a sigh of relief.

To: American Spirit who wrote (4482)	3/3/2004 8:22:21 PM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

LOL! re:"The Sudanese offer is a Republican urban myth... there might have been an offer, but only at a very low level. The offer, if it existed, never reached the State Department of White House. It was just one of those flakey third world phone calls to some 3rd level US functionary..." - American Sprit LOL! Another attempt at humor? I guess you'll be leading the campaign to force the Washington Post to return the Pulitzer Prize it got for the series (which included this article), post a retraction, and fire the writer who wrote the story! LOL! pulitzer.org "...Maj. Gen. Elfatih Erwa, then minister of state for defense, arrived unannounced at the Hyatt Arlington on March 3,... ...During the next several weeks, Erwa raised the stakes. The Sudanese security services, he said, would happily keep close watch on bin Laden for the United States. But if that would not suffice, the government was prepared to place him in custody and hand him over, though to whom was ambiguous. In one formulation, Erwa said Sudan would consider any legitimate proffer of criminal charges against the accused terrorist. Saudi Arabia, he said, was the most logical destination... ...Lake and Secretary of State Warren Christopher were briefed, colleagues said, on efforts launched to persuade the Saudi government to take bin Laden" - The Washington Post LOL! Warren Christopher, "3rd level US functionary" - as defined by American Spirit! LOL!