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To: TimF who wrote (184024)3/3/2004 4:53:58 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575466
 
More. If done quickly a lot more.
I never said it should done quickly.

Quickly is relative. Maybe I shouldn't have used that term. In this case 10 years would be quickly, even 20 would probably have to be considered quickly. 50 years would probably not qualify as "quickly".


At current rates of usage, its estimated oil production will peak somewhere between 2020 and 2030. That precludes no increase in current rates of usage nor the discovery of new reserves. I think it behooves us to have a working plan in place and substantive progress made well before 2030. By 2030, oil prices will start to skyrocket.


That is one of the weakest arguments I have ever heard come from your side of the table. You would spend $300 billion on another country but you are want to nickel and dime our energy independence.

Energy independence would cost a lot more then $300bil, and even if we reduced our oil needs to what we produce in the US Middle Eastern oil would still be strategically important because many of our allies and trading partners need it, because it provides money to potentially dangerous countries and regimes and because US oil production is declining so even if we could reduce oil use by the amount currently imported we would have to start importing again in the future.


You don't get it. That wasted $300 billion could have gotten us well on the road to energy independence. And btw energy independence is not trying to figure out how to stretch our oil and NG supplies but to work diligently in developing cost effective, alternative fuels. The era of oil is ending faster than I would like. You need to accept it.

Basically I don't think energy independence is at this time a realistic and useful goal so I won't support spending enormous amounts of money to try and achieve it.

You've heard the story of the hare and squirrel. The squirrel plans for the winter by storing away nuts. The hare simply hopes for the best.

ted