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To: E who wrote (7422)	3/3/2004 6:43:07 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7720

You got me. It seems to me to be strictly mythological. Most of the "followers" know next to nothing about the source of their beliefs. It comes from their parentage, culture, and frailty. Those who think about it at all (like Sydney) simply rationalize away the OT and rationalize in the NT. The preachers have about 100 verses that they dare to look at, and this lasts for 2 years of sermons. Do people believe in those old laws from the Egyptians and such? Well...what is most important is that people find decent rules that honour values and individual freedom. Even primitive people had some good ideas. I have decided not to pretend amongst educated people that the mythology of ancient cultures may be qualified as to (religious) merit. I will not waste my time (or yours) discussing such nonsense with you. I am wasting enough time on another thread discussing what requires no discussion. How idiotic can one be? How idiotic, indeed. I plead guilty.

To: E who wrote (7422)	3/3/2004 9:19:13 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

I read the OT after being saved for a long time. That was probably a good thing. There's no point in reading the OT is you don't understand the New T first. I was surprised to find Jesus throughout the OT. The OT is very much alive. It's part of the bible and there's a lot more in the OT than the ordinances that you've mentioned. Some of those seem very not politically correct today to say the least. But possibly we need to look at it from another direction. Where mankind was before the Law. Back up to the anarchy everyone lived in before God chose Abraham, established Israel, and gave the Law. It was certainly an improvement socially from what was before. The force of a roving band or a Monarch was what dictated the morals of that moment. And that usually was not good. Then God gave the Law to Israel. He chose one people to show Himself to every nation and people. God became known to the world as the God of Israel because Israel had the law. The law was a moral organizing principle for a barbaric time. But God's aim in giving the Law was not just to organize a society. It was to educate them about Him and point the way to the need for Christ. God promised salvation to man long before the giving of the Law. The OT and the Law point to Jesus. The Law was the first covenant between man and God. Jesus is the last and much better covenant. Through the sacrifices outlined in the law the people's sins were forgiven for one year and then they had to sacrifice again. Through Jesus's sacrifice sin is forgiven forever for all who accept it. Just like those that offered the sacrifices under the law, they had to offer it. They had to act on it. Today everyone who wants forgiveness has to act on it in their hearts asking and believing Jesus for that forgiveness. Romans 8:2 says "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death." The OT Law was the law of sin and of death. It showed us even by it's own imperfection that it could not save us. The Law pointed to the necessity of Jesus. And Jesus has set us free from sin and death and that law that could not.