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Politics : PRESIDENT JOHN FORBES KERRY -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (122)	3/5/2004 12:52:23 AM
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Regarding New Mexico: I couldn't find anything in my search that would have changed the results of that election. Regarding St. Louis, Missouri--(a state which Bush won): >>> Mr. Bond claimed that hundreds of people cast illegal ballots in St. Louis on Election Day 2000. At the same time, Rep. William Lacy Clay Jr., D-St. Louis, claimed that thousands of legitimate voters were prevented from voting because they were on the inactive voter list. It's unclear whether Mr. Bond's or Mr. Clay's picture of Election Day is more accurate. The truth is probably somewhere in between.<<< electionreform.org Many GOPwingers have complained about Philadelphia, you mentioning that one precinct reported 100 percent turnout: I've searched Google extensively and could only find rightwing sites citing your information about the number of votes cast in Philadelphia against the number of registered voters on the rolls. Each of those sites low-balled the population of Philadelphia. In 1990, there were 1,585,577 and in 2000 it was 1,517,550--not 1.3 million as alleged. Regarding your comment: " If every state was opened up like Florida was, we'd find the corruption to be so widespread it would cause people to lose faith in the system." It appears Florida in 2002 wasn't opened up much at all: >>>Just when you thought you couldn't get any more cynical. Guess which state did not have Federal Observers assigned to it by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) for the 2002 mid-term election? If you guessed Florida, congratulations, you're living in the real world... depressing, but real. No state could match the staggering number of Voting Rights complaints due to voting machines and other shenanigans as Florida did in the 2000 presidential election. Yet the Bush Administration's DOJ, under Attorney General John Ashcroft, did not see fit to send Federal Observers to Florida to monitor the voting process in 2002, although Observers were sent to several other states. This is surprising news to many people and organizations who were told by DOJ officials that "Justice" would be down there in force.<<< scoop.co.nz More: scoop.co.nz digiserve.com More about Florida: History must consider exit voting surveys showed Gore won; that mechanical flaws caused tens of thousands of ballots in Democratic counties to become discarded; that, amazingly, a strongly populated Jewish county registered thousands of votes for Pat Buchanan; that black voters were harassed and blocked from voting, with many falsely eliminated from the voting rolls; that two county offices saw GOPwinger partisans strangely hanging around at least two county offices, raising a possibility there was tampering with absentee ballots; and, finally, that GOPwingers put enormous and near-violent energy into blocking or discrediting all recount efforts. Here's more on that: alternet.org alternet.org alternet.org pcdf.org Where we're at today: progressive.org commondreams.org verifiedvoting.org scoop.co.nz talion.com news.com.com futurenet.org blackboxvoting.com ecotalk.org