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To: James Calladine who wrote (5147)	3/4/2004 11:17:22 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 173976

FDR did the same thing, so are you comparing FDR to GW?

To: James Calladine who wrote (5147)	3/4/2004 11:23:28 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 173976

Kerry does the same thing with Viet Nam and people died there, it is a slap in the face to all of them

To: James Calladine who wrote (5147)	3/4/2004 12:05:36 PM
From: Kevin Rose	Respond to of 173976

Well, I don't blame Bush. Can you imagine the crew sitting around the table trying to figure out just WHAT the heck they put in their ads? Economy? First President to have a NET job loss. Probably won't sell very well. Iraq? Boy, not only did we step into the world's biggest cow pie, but now it turns out the main reasons were, uh, well, actually lies. Ooops! How about this oldie but goodie: "I am a united, not a divider". Hehe, that's a good one now. Oh, how about the flight suit and "Mission Accomplished" banner? Ooops. Why not point to the war on terrorism? Ooops, guess we kind of dropped the ball on that one when we went on our Iraq 'adventure'. Hmmmm, there's got to be something. Let's see. The old ace-in-the-hole: Fear! Keep people afraid and then they'll make the wrong decision! That's right, let's show the Tower wreckage! Good move, Karen. Now we see why you 'retired'. Do your party a favor, and STAY retired. You're doing the Democrats a great big favor....

To: James Calladine who wrote (5147)	3/4/2004 12:56:34 PM
From: Skywatcher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

I wish the headline on THAT ad...was: IT HAPPENED ON MY WATCH!!! CC

To: James Calladine who wrote (5147)	3/4/2004 2:00:58 PM
From: Mighty_Mezz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

9/11 Victims' Kin Angered by Bush Ads By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites)'s day-old campaign commercials drew sharp criticism Thursday from relatives of the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and a firefighters union with ties to Democratic rival John Kerry (news - web sites) demanded they be pulled from the air. The White House defended the ads, which include images of the destroyed World Trade Center and firefighters bearing a stretcher through the rubble. "It makes me sick," said Colleen Kelly, who lost her brother Bill Kelly Jr. in the attacks and leads a victims families group called Peaceful Tomorrows. "Would you ever go to someone's grave site and use that as an instrument of politics? That truly is what Ground Zero represents to me." In Bal Harbour, Fla., the International Association of Fire Fighters Union approved a resolution asking the Bush campaign to pull the ads, spokesman Jeff Zack said. The resolution also urges Bush to "apologize to the families of firefighters killed on 9/11 for demeaning the memory of their loved ones in an attempt to curry support for his re-election." The union gave Kerry an early endorsement in the presidential race. The controversy erupted as Bush's re-election campaign began airing the commercials nationally on cable television and on broadcast stations in about 80 media markets in 18 states. The ads refer both to the terrorist attacks and to the recent recession, and are designed to project Bush as a candidate offering "steady leadership in times of change." The commercials do not mention Kerry. Bush's aides defended the use of the images that stir memories of the worst terrorist attack in the nation's history. "Sept. 11 changed the equation in our public policy. It forever changed the world," said Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary. "The president's steady leadership is vital to how we wage war on terrorism." Nor did all victims' relatives criticize the ad. Patricia Riley of Staten Island, N.Y., who lost her sister in the attack, said: "The president has every right to point to his leadership during that time." Bush's campaign had said it would not use the attacks for political gain, and current and former aides defended the commercials. "September 11th was not just a distant tragedy. It's a defining event for the future of our country," Karen Hughes, a Bush campaign adviser, told "The Early Show" on CBS. "Obviously, all of us mourn and grieve for the victims of that terrible day, but September 11 fundamentally changed our public policy in many important ways, and I think it's vital that the next president recognize that." One of the ads shows the charred wreckage of the twin towers with a flag flying amid the debris. Another ad — and a Spanish-language version of it — use that image as well alongside firefighters carrying a flag-draped stretcher through the rubble as sirens are heard. Firefighters are shown in all the ads. Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Association of Fire Fighters Union, called the ads disgraceful and said they should be pulled. "We're not going to stand for him to put his arm around one of our members on top of a pile of rubble at Ground Zero during a tragedy and then stand by and watch him cut money for first responders," Schaitberger said. He said his union is politically independent even though it endorsed Kerry and has donated money to Republicans. Barbara Minervino, a Republican from Middletown, N.J., who lost her husband, Louis, in the attacks, questioned whether Bush was "capitalizing on the event." David Potorti, an independent from Cary, N.C., whose brother Jim died in the north tower, called the campaign's use of the images audacious. "It's an insult to use the place where my brother died in an ad," Potorti said. "I would be just as outraged if any politician did this." Until Bush cooperates with the federal commission that is investigating the nation's preparedness before the attacks and its response "by testifying in public under oath ... he should not be using 9/11 as political propaganda," said Kristen Breitweiser, of Middletown Township, N.J., whose husband, Ronald Breitweiser, 39, died in the World Trade Center. "Three thousand people were murdered on President Bush's watch," Breitweiser said. "He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that happened." _____ Associated Press Writer Geoff Mulvihill in Mt. Laurel, N.J., contributed to this report.