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To: rkrw who wrote (10817)3/4/2004 2:15:53 PM
From: scaram(o)uche  Respond to of 52153
 
>> I remember well Rick's argument that the mogn drug was toxic as hell <<

Well.... yeah, but I was only countering someone who was misrepresenting it as a gentle cancer therapy. It was never an argument to be out of the stock (given Salagen).



To: rkrw who wrote (10817)3/4/2004 2:45:01 PM
From: Ward Knutson  Respond to of 52153
 
<< still remember mogn (and you I believe) pointing to a single (maybe a couple) cancer patient who was doing very well>>

Each of the Phase II trials were staged, a common practice at the NCI and in small bio/pharma at the time. If one patient out of the initial enrollment group (generally in the neighborhood of 15 patients) was an objective responder the trial would be expanded. This happened in prostate, ovarian, and pancreatic - all three of the initial Phase II trials with such a protocol. There was an announcement on each expansion, and I do recall ridicule over so-called touting one patient results. This red-flag "touting" reaction was out of line in my opinion. To those who followed the development it was obvious this was a material reportable - positive - event as it continued and expanded each trial via this trigger.

<<I remember well Rick's argument that the mogn drug was toxic as hell>>

No more so, and in key areas far less of an issue in severity, than the platinum agents or camptosar. What is your point? It is a chemo-agent, there are indeed toxicities.

<<I've considered this type of push a red flag>>
<<I've long seen mogn as a cult stock esp back then>>

What part does superfluous analysis like this play in evaluating an investment? I prefer real analysis of the business model, assets and management team.

The attraction for me was always the team and vision Blitzer worked to establish and instill was one with a history of shrewd in-licensing (Marion Labs) and not the higher-risk drug discovery. Irofulven was (and still is) a drug with great potential, however it is but one piece of MGI then and now.



To: rkrw who wrote (10817)3/4/2004 2:50:46 PM
From: Biomaven  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 52153
 
I don't think Irofulven is dead yet. I figure it's still got at least a 50:50 shot of ending up an approved and useful drug. It's the combo trials that may really prove its worth.

But agreed that the road has been a long and rocky one. Still unclear to me why the results in humans didn't match the animal models. Perhaps the short half-life in humans? Bags can of course speak to all this much more knowledgeably than the rest of us.

Peter