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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (263)	3/4/2004 3:22:59 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 403

Plus Laz stalks many of the SI people just so he can goad them into fodder for his rant thread. Very distasteful. Example: Message 19878388 TP

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (263)	3/4/2004 5:23:01 PM
From: Original Mad Dog	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 403

That thread was set up because two posters in particular said things over and over and over again which were either flat out untrue or distorted. You are one of those two posters. To point out when someone says things that are untrue or distorted is the essence of free speech. On all sides of the political spectrum. If you find it distasteful that people disagree with you, especially when you make things up, then stop discussing things with people.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (263)	3/4/2004 8:27:43 PM
From: SI Dave	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 403

>>Isn't it against the TOU to set up a moderated thread specifically to bash other posters? That’s a fair question. I don't believe that it's a TOU violation, per se. The content of member posts is really the issue. And, as you observed, more latitude is given on Coffee Shop political threads. There is certainly precedent. There have been any number of threads started by members about other "high profile" members. Some subjects that come immediately to mind are A@P, Jenna, Daniel Miller, Gary Dobry, Jane456, Wayne Rumball, Jonathan Lebed, Larry Dudash, Tim Luke, impristine, Zeev Hed, Lucretius, Lisa Viperwhatever, mmmary, and so on. Frequent posting, particularly when it's controversial, begets additional attention. Detractors and supporters come with the territory. Several threads have been started about American Spirit, by both supporters and detractors. He has participated in them, and to my knowledge has not filed TOU complaints regarding their creation or existence. The thread in question was started over a year ago and now has some 4500 messages. You were "added" to its description on December 9th, nearly three months ago. You have participated on the thread, and I'm not aware of any TOU complaints that you may have filed about the thread itself or any messages contained in it. There are three members banned from the thread, none of which are you or American Spirit. (My "concern" would been greatly amplified had I found that to not be the case.) >>I know its the coffee shop but I find this distasteful. I can't say that I totally disagree. I would personally prefer to see the topic be about the messages and not the messengers. The objective of these threads could easily be met by making the theme be about the content of the messages... as has been done on other political threads, without the need to personalize it. That said, have you asked the moderator to remove your name from the thread description? Perhaps he would agree to such a request out of common courtesy, if for no other reason. With the developing political season and the almost daily proliferation of new political threads, I suspect some limitations will be required regarding threads titled or described to be "about" other members. Hopefully not, but it seems inevitable. Of course, doing so will result in complaints of "censorship" or "admin interference"... many of which will come from the very same people who would initially support such limitations. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.