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To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (5659)	3/8/2004 10:45:51 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

I thought the ad was great and I look forward to seeing more of them at ground zero. Especially a shot of Bush being cheered by the firemen.

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (5659)	3/8/2004 10:58:53 AM
From: James Calladine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Can you imagine the outrage that we would hear if Kerry used the same images in his ads in ANY way? HOWEVER, it is a perfect opening for Kerry who can say: -- Bush runs these ads -- what did he know in advance of 9/11 (won't say) -- what actually happened 9/11 (trying to stonewall) -- what about EPA report of safety at site etc etc etc. The ONE ISSUE if properly exploited could kill Bush. Of course there any MANY OTHERS! Namaste! Jim Namaste! Jim

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (5659)	3/8/2004 2:16:28 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Karen, there seems to have been an interesting edit in that piece. In the version you clipped, it says: Another less-publicized aspect of the ad flap: the use of paid actors—including two playing firefighters with fire hats and uniforms in what looks like a fire station. "Where the hell did they get those guys?" cracked Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, which has endorsed John Kerry, when he first saw the ads. (A union spokesman said the shots prompted jokes that the fire hats looked like the plastic hats "from a birthday party.") "There's many reasons not to use real firemen," retorted one Bush media adviser. "Mainly, its cheaper and quicker." But what's currently up at msnbc.msn.com in place of that is toned down a bit: Another, less publicized aspect of the ad flap: Everyone but the firefighters were paid actors. The firefighters posing in a firehouse was "stock" film footage of volunteer firefighters -- shot and available for purchase to the general public. I wonder what made it into print?

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (5659)	3/8/2004 3:54:02 PM
From: steve dietrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Maybe their next ad will feature the planes flying into the building, or the dramatic collapse of the towers, or the roll call for the dead. Lot of material for Bush to abuse.

To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (5659)	3/9/2004 5:28:49 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Tenet denies Iraq intelligence manipulation CIA chief mum on whether he tried to cool WMD rhetoric The Associated Press Updated: 4:08 p.m. ET March 09, 2004 WASHINGTON - CIA Director George Tenet said Tuesday he doesn’t believe the Bush administration manipulated intelligence to justify war in Iraq but declined to say whether he tried to cool U.S. officials’ rhetoric about the now-disputed claim Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. “I’m not going to sit here today and tell you what my interaction was ... and what I did and didn’t do, except that you have to have confidence to know that when I believed that somebody was misconstruing intelligence, I said something about it,” Tenet told a congressional hearing. “I don’t stand up publicly and do it.” The CIA director’s comments came at the end of an exchange in which Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., asked whether Tenet privately challenged President Bush and others — and why he didn’t speak up publicly — when officials portrayed the threat from Saddam Hussein as more urgent than CIA reports suggested. “I do the intelligence ... they take the intelligence and assess the risk and make a policy judgment,” Tenet said. 'Superheated rhetoric' Kennedy cited several occasions when officials referred to an urgent threat, the possibility of a nuclear attack and other “warmonger” descriptions of weapons programs it now appears Saddam didn’t have. “If you’re saying there was no immediate threat and you hear ... the president, vice president, secretary of defense using that superheated rhetoric, we have to ask what is your responsibility,” Kennedy said. Asked specifically whether he thinks policy makers misrepresented the intelligence facts to justify the war, Tenet said: “No sir, I don’t.” Tenet said that besides key intelligence findings, his agency also believed that Saddam made a continuing effort to deceive the world about this weapons and that it was possible he could surprise them with something. msnbc.msn.com