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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: JDN who wrote (549610)	3/8/2004 4:05:15 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Neither Bush or Kerry will win in a landslide.

To: JDN who wrote (549610)	3/8/2004 4:29:46 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

You're a crack up JDN. You're the one looting the treasury to the tune of $500 billion for your Medicare prescription drug benefit. It's corporations looting the treasury with tax breaks for offshoring and outsourcing. It's the Republicans who are robbing the treasury blind to the tune of $500 billion plus per year. You guys are so desperate you're now trying the Reagan "welfare queen" routine? Whatever happened to being "a uniter not a divider?" (I guess when you get down a little in the polls the true colors start coming out.) The blue states are where all the people live, where all the gdp and tax revenue comes from and where all the best universities are. You can have Mississippi and Alabama. I'll take New York and California anytime. You and your fellow "real Americans" got nothing but hate. Guess what, you're in a little trouble right now. Bush got a negative bounce from the State of the Union, and his current offensive isn't making any headway so far either. At some point you guys will have to admit that there just might be a problem with Bush. This election will be about him not, try as you will, about Kerry. Steve Dietrich

To: JDN who wrote (549610)	3/8/2004 4:52:32 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

At last we finally see where TAW got these irrelevant statistics! "Square miles of land 'won' "???????? Geeze... you'd think someone had changed the Constitution to allow all the deserts and TUNDRA to vote, instead of failable PEOPLE! If you could only squeeze the snow in Alaska, or the sand in Nevada, hard enough to hear the dirt clods --- faintly, ever so faintly --- express their preference in elections, and designate which ballot options they supported... why, then we could get rid of PEOPLE altogether! LOL!!!!!!!!! You crack me up! (And, PS, shouldn't you take the great States of Alaska and Wyoming off of the good professor's list of "lands owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country" and move them over to the list that includes "those citizens living ...off government welfare" --- since they are able to actually dispense with State taxes because they live off of the fees extracted from companies who mine the rich public and private mineral lands? If THAT AIN'T living off of the government teat, I don't know what is.) I guess citizens who live in cities are just S.O.L. because they don't have the great good fortune to live on top of a pool of the public's oil, or coal, or gold, or what-have-you. Ha! (Just where the hell is that giant of educational progress, "Hamline University" anyway?) Gee... don't forget the relative 'number of prarie dogs' in the Red States and in the Blue States either... or the amount of crab grass, or the number of acres of scrub brush that each citizen can lay claim to --- I'm sure all that stuff is REAL IMPORTANT when it comes to deciding elections.... (How about deciding elections by the aggregate SAT scores of the citizens? Geeze, you crack me up!)

To: JDN who wrote (549610)	3/8/2004 5:30:04 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 769670

posters on this thread ... read JDN message: Message #549611 from JDN at Mar 8, 2004 4:01 PM I hope all TRUE AMERICANS will read below, especially read the statistics and comment at the end, you will see why I feel it SO IMPORTANT that Bush win and win in a landslide. jdn As we approach November 2004 one may wish to consider the following: At about the time our original 13 states adopted a new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinborough, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian republic some 2,000 years prior: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship." "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage." Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the most recent Presidential election: Population of counties won: by Gore, 127 million; by Bush, 143 million; Square miles of land won: by Gore, 580,000; by Bush, 2,427,000; States won: by Gore, 19; by Bush, 29; Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won: by Gore, 13.2; by Bush, 2.1. Professor Olson adds, "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was (mostly) the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country, Gore's territory encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare..." Olson believes the U.S.is now somewhere between the "apathy" and the "complacency" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy; with some 40 percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.