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To: Neocon who wrote (125791)3/8/2004 5:48:07 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Neocon; Re: " Remember, this was brought up as a point making cooperation among the best minds more difficult, though not impossible."

So it is your position that the "best minds" in China are not universally educated to speak Mandarin? Here, take your excellent knowledge of an obscure Chinese dialect and get a job in the electronics manufacturing industry in China:

China Jobs
English
English and Mandarin
English and (Chinese) Putonghua
English and Mandarin
English and (Chinese) Putonghua
English and Mandarin
English and Mandarin
English and Mandarin
English and Mandarin
English and (Chinese) Putonghua
English and Mandarin
English and Mandarin
English and Mandarin
Chinese and English
English and Mandarin
Mandarin ... English
English and Mandarin
English and (Chinese) Putonghua
English and Mandarin

jobs.flextronics.com

Flextronics operates all over China:
flextronics.com

Now I suppose one could argue that the "best minds" in China are so stupid that they're unable to make the relatively easy conversion from their own home language to Mandarin, but I doubt that this is the case. Instead, Mandarin is the lingua franca of China and I doubt that there are many people who could be classified as "best minds" who failed to learn it in school.

It would be a hell of a trick to get through college not speaking the language that the classes were taught in.

I really don't know how you could miss these facts, when, for example, the Tibetans have been complaining for decades that the Chinese force them to speak in Chinese.

Here's some more links:
china.org.cn

-- Carl

P.S. For those who don't know their Chinese dialects, Putonghua is the Chinese word for Mandarin:
chineseculture.about.com

Also, note that English is fairly common in use in high tech China (though, like the English used in India, it is not really understandable):
viatech.com.cn



To: Neocon who wrote (125791)3/9/2004 4:04:03 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Even in Belgium, less than 20% of the population is bilingual

I spent a month working at the parachute school in Schaffen and again later in Brussels. Every native I met spoke at least two languages.
Dutch and French are the two official languages of Belgium. Both are taught in school along with English. Many, many others speak fluent English and/or German. Often those who speak fluent German do not readily admit it.