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To: Neocon who wrote (7471)	3/9/2004 1:30:09 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

No it was not really clear to them at the time but it's very clear now. And you're right that the Apostles had a hard time understanding that the Law and rituals were past. Paul grasped that and made that argument. God settled the argument when He had the Romans destroy the physical Temple and Israel ceased to exist as a Nation and the Jews were dispersed.

To: Neocon who wrote (7471)	3/17/2004 5:25:23 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7720

Hey Neo Jesus did establish the New Covenant and Paul expanded on the implications in his letters. Also the writer of the Book of Hebrews (Paul?) spends a great deal of time explaining why the New Covenant is a "better" Covenant because Jesus is the permanent and actual fulfillment of what was only temporary and symbolic. Luke 22 20Likewise He (Jesus)also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you. Hebrews 8 The High Priest of a New Covenant 1The point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by man. 3Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. 4If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already men who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. 5They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: "See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain." 6But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better promises. 7For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8But God found fault with the people and said: "The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. 9It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord. 10This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 11No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. 12For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more." 13By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.