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To: Lane3 who wrote (33640)	3/9/2004 3:43:22 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793895

The other stuff may look like war in Osama's bush league, but it wasn't war in ours. That was our problem. We didn't bring Osama's Embassy destruction and Cole bombings to a war level. And we paid for it on 911.

To: Lane3 who wrote (33640)	3/9/2004 6:30:54 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793895

OBL declared war on us in 1998. That is a fact. Then his attacks increased in their ferocity until the 9/11 attack. If it wasn't for a change in Administrations in the White House, we would have continued to react to OBL's declared war as a criminal activity - And OBL would have continued to attack us with impunity - Clinton's serious policy mistake probably allowed 9/11 to occur. Instead, on 9/11, President Bush decided that this is a war & reacted appropriately. Your revisionist POV may allow you to hold a faulty POV. It doesn't however, jive with what happened in the real world. "That one occurrence is what's at issue. Osama could have kept up the second and third tier harassment until he ran out of steam and, while it would have been sad, it really wouldn't have mattered in the grand scheme of things."

To: Lane3 who wrote (33640)	3/10/2004 4:44:41 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793895

What hurt was the monster attack of 9/11, which was in a class of its own and which shook our sense of security and confidence as a country. What hurt was our inability to see it coming and our inability to respond prior to the attack due to massive cuts in our intel gathering folks and an unwillingness to react to the gathering threat by the clinton administration. The other stuff may look like war in Osama's bush league, but it wasn't war in ours. The first WTC attack, the 2 embassy attacks, an attack on a warship, the Khobar towers attack and TWA 800 were reasons enough to take definitive action. Are you suggesting we should have continued to ignore these attacks...that we should have continued to chop away at our intell and military budgets...that we should have continued the massive reduction in Navy ships and USAF attack planes and Army tanks...that we could have ripped another 35-39% of the personnel strength out of our armed forces, if only the Muslim militants had continued these attacks and not attacked the WTC for a second time?